AAL submits proposal
11-27-2014, 05:03 AM
#332
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Would you consider leaving $50k+ in additional pay on the table to be a concession versus going to arbitration and getting $0? Concessions come in all forms, not just midnight sim sessions for .05% of the pilot group.
Or have you dug your heels in so deep that you can no longer see anything at all?
Or have you dug your heels in so deep that you can no longer see anything at all?
Last edited by KiloAlpha; 11-27-2014 at 05:17 AM.
11-27-2014, 06:08 AM
#333
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What they are asking for in the HBT and by combining the intl/dom divisions are huge concessions! The sims, 2 hour call out ( the flight department management has already told the company that is a nonstarter from their perspective, so it is gone ), 40% tax on our healthcare plan can be adjusted to not cause us to loose dollars and coverage. Get more informed on the two big gives before you say no big deal. They will cost us big down the road.
11-27-2014, 06:18 AM
#335
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Concessions! Keep yelling it so it must be true. Vote no! Stick it to 'em! We'll really get them in 2019!
A couple concessionary items are the current law of the land on the LUS side. 90 min call out. Min days off still 11/12. Current mix of domestic and intl. Once we have those rules active, then it will be a concession. Until then, it's just some writing that Parker is ignoring.
You live in a fantasy land
A couple concessionary items are the current law of the land on the LUS side. 90 min call out. Min days off still 11/12. Current mix of domestic and intl. Once we have those rules active, then it will be a concession. Until then, it's just some writing that Parker is ignoring.
You live in a fantasy land
11-27-2014, 06:31 AM
#336
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There is a reason you don't want a exact time on call outs. Traffic, flat tires and other issues can make anyone miss a time limit. That can result in discipline up to and including termination. It's much better to not be specific. At a minimum it should state that a pilot on short call should be within 2 hours under normal circumstances not as a absolute.
11-27-2014, 06:48 AM
#337
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There is a reason you don't want a exact time on call outs. Traffic, flat tires and other issues can make anyone miss a time limit. That can result in discipline up to and including termination. It's much better to not be specific. At a minimum it should state that a pilot on short call should be within 2 hours under normal circumstances not as a absolute.
Unless a fair offer is made, arbitration is the better path in the long run.
11-27-2014, 07:02 AM
#338
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They have not! There has NEVER been a specific callout to report time at US Airways. The rule states that you must reside within 90 minutes normal driving time to the airport, not that you have 90 minutes to get there. If it takes you 2-3 hours, it takes you 2-3 hours. Information is key and knowing is half the battle.
11-27-2014, 07:14 AM
#340
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They have not! There has NEVER been a specific callout to report time at US Airways. The rule states that you must reside within 90 minutes normal driving time to the airport, not that you have 90 minutes to get there. If it takes you 2-3 hours, it takes you 2-3 hours. Information is key and knowing is half the battle.
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