The Drizzle

Every time you post I get worse an worse feelings about adopting the AA way.

"I HAVE A SALUTE"

Skubajet

Don't forget the departure brief. If I am a FO flying the leg, only the Captain briefs it, I guess FOs aren't worthy enough to brief the leg they are flying. LOL

7576FO

LOL!

I am "emphasizing" how bad some of it is here. Especially reserve.

Funny you mentioned Salute...

Last Wed night midnight 30 they push us back, i'm the FB. They unhook and drive off. The CA called them back to show us the pin and a salute.
15 minutes later they return.

And then they stood there a full minute and a half waving the pin and saluting.

It's every workgroup here.


I went to the C23 pilot ops restroom in DFW 2 years ago. There was stuff written in the mens room which we share with the rampers, on the stall walls by the rampers towards us AArogant Skygods. Lots of bad stuff.


Part of the culture problem at AA stems not just from Centerport but from the cockpit where Captains think they;re still in the Air Force and treat everyone like they're enlisted personnel.

For the new hires and for USAir happy to be here! Please please bring a different culture. Any culture will be appreciated.

We desperately need new blood here.

7576FO

I have always struggled with that. At the other airlines I flew at, the FO did conduct his leg's TO brief.

Twice at AA the CA said why don't you do a TO brief. It'd been so long I stumbled through it.

Our Part 1 (Flt ops manual) is written "The PIC shall" The way it is written in 2 different places, In the event of an engine failure "The PIC shall land the aircraft at nearest suitable"

FO's only make the arrival PA.

FO's are only allowed to go #1 in the 1L lav.

The PIC shall feel free to 1 and 2 in the 1L, 1R lav.

7576FO

I'm hoping to adopt AAny other way.

EMBFlyer

Please, for the love of God, when is that going away?!

You spoke about the "CAAptain Culture" at AA. I do have to laugh. As I was explaining how AA does thing (from the observations I'd seen and what I'd read) to one guy I flew with, he seemed to beam with pride and embrace it. He was quite excited to learn about this. Because of his other actions during the trip, it was not a fun 4-day.

Sliceback

None of your next month's days off matter in the previous month. "Fly the month you're in". IE, you have the first four days of April off. You're on call the last day of March - "yeh, no open trips! Worst is a three day so I'll be home for our anniversary on April 4th!"

Uh, not so fast sport. Crew skd calls March 31st - we've got a six day trip for you. ****? We've only got 3 day trips. Computer generated trip and "you fly the month you're in" which means the computer ignores your April days off.

The flight office is not heartless and deals can be made BUT they're not guaranteed. And 'the needs of the service take priority'.

CanoePilot

Sounds good to me. I hate briefing, most people zone out after a few seconds anyway.

What is that?

Sliceback

I've yet to meet anyone that moved their family for their probation year out of fear of commuting.

I've yet to hear about one guy fired from probationary for commuting issues.

That said, take probation seriously. If you come across as a FU in the first year it might be ugly. That said almost everyone is a big boy and 'gets it'.

Have guys gotten fired? Absolutely. When you hear why you'll shake your head.

In general you have to work hard to get fired. If anything it's amazing how hard it can be to get fired. Show up, do your job, be a decent coworker, go home. Have a nice, and long, career. It's that simple.

EMBFlyer

The arrival PA.