American interviews and class dates
02-02-2014, 01:37 PM
#685
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Joined APC: Apr 2012
Position: Delta chihuahua Capt.
Posts: 462
This 1500 in 5 years, maybe no different than Deltas 300/year. Management is smart. These are publicly traded companies with responsibilities to it shareholders. If AA or Delta announce they are hiring 600/year, then for some reason only hire 599/year, you have investors freeking out that these airlines did not hit their projected goal, now if AA and Delta announce they are only hiring 300/year, (or 1500/5yrs) then -BOOM- hire double their projected amount, the investors see these companies as having a bullish outlook, and invest big money, driving up the price.
02-03-2014, 03:39 AM
#687
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Joined APC: Jan 2007
Posts: 405
United CEO letter to employees.
....... our decision to reduce our flying was driven by our continued losses in Cleveland, the timing of the flight reductions has been accelerated by industry-wide effects of new federal regulations that impact us and our regional partner flying. Those new regulations have caused mainline airlines to hire regional pilots, while simultaneously significantly reducing the pool of new pilots from which regional carriers themselves can hire. Although this is an industry issue, it directly affects us and requires us to reduce our regional partner flying, as several of our regional partners are beginning to have difficulty flying their schedules due to reduced new pilot availability. We need to reduce that flying in our most unprofitable markets, which unfortunately are out of Cleveland.
....... our decision to reduce our flying was driven by our continued losses in Cleveland, the timing of the flight reductions has been accelerated by industry-wide effects of new federal regulations that impact us and our regional partner flying. Those new regulations have caused mainline airlines to hire regional pilots, while simultaneously significantly reducing the pool of new pilots from which regional carriers themselves can hire. Although this is an industry issue, it directly affects us and requires us to reduce our regional partner flying, as several of our regional partners are beginning to have difficulty flying their schedules due to reduced new pilot availability. We need to reduce that flying in our most unprofitable markets, which unfortunately are out of Cleveland.
02-03-2014, 04:53 AM
#688
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Joined APC: Feb 2013
Position: B737
Posts: 1,204
Maybe time for their regional partners to offer better pay. I'd go fly for a regional tomorrow if I wouldn't have to declare bankruptcy to do so. Most mil pilots are in my shoes...after 10+ years on active duty getting paid fairly well, you tend to accrue a house, wife and kids, not necessarily in that order. Can't pay the bills or feed to little people on $25-ish per hour.
If they started at $35-40/hour and second year FO was $60-70 range, they would have no problem attracting people. I could pay the mortgage AND eat too on that pay. Bottom line...I think there are fewer and fewer kids coming in to this industry willing to live out of a car for a few years. And unless they are retired military, most ex-mil or displaced corporate/freight guys aren't willing to take that big of a pay cut to fly for a regional.
If they started at $35-40/hour and second year FO was $60-70 range, they would have no problem attracting people. I could pay the mortgage AND eat too on that pay. Bottom line...I think there are fewer and fewer kids coming in to this industry willing to live out of a car for a few years. And unless they are retired military, most ex-mil or displaced corporate/freight guys aren't willing to take that big of a pay cut to fly for a regional.
02-03-2014, 06:41 AM
#689
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Joined APC: Nov 2011
Position: A320 Capt
Posts: 5,299
United CEO letter to employees.
....... our decision to reduce our flying was driven by our continued losses in Cleveland, the timing of the flight reductions has been accelerated by industry-wide effects of new federal regulations that impact us and our regional partner flying. Those new regulations have caused mainline airlines to hire regional pilots, while simultaneously significantly reducing the pool of new pilots from which regional carriers themselves can hire. Although this is an industry issue, it directly affects us and requires us to reduce our regional partner flying, as several of our regional partners are beginning to have difficulty flying their schedules due to reduced new pilot availability. We need to reduce that flying in our most unprofitable markets, which unfortunately are out of Cleveland.
....... our decision to reduce our flying was driven by our continued losses in Cleveland, the timing of the flight reductions has been accelerated by industry-wide effects of new federal regulations that impact us and our regional partner flying. Those new regulations have caused mainline airlines to hire regional pilots, while simultaneously significantly reducing the pool of new pilots from which regional carriers themselves can hire. Although this is an industry issue, it directly affects us and requires us to reduce our regional partner flying, as several of our regional partners are beginning to have difficulty flying their schedules due to reduced new pilot availability. We need to reduce that flying in our most unprofitable markets, which unfortunately are out of Cleveland.
"CLE was never a really great hub. We have been losing our rear there since the merger and don't need a "hub" in between our hubs in EWR and ORD. But, since there was so much stink about mega-mergers reducing service and closing hubs we are going to find another excuse for what is just a good business decision."
02-03-2014, 09:55 AM
#690
La Familia Delta
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: B-717 FO / C-17 AC
Posts: 2,467
Maybe time for their regional partners to offer better pay. I'd go fly for a regional tomorrow if I wouldn't have to declare bankruptcy to do so. Most mil pilots are in my shoes...after 10+ years on active duty getting paid fairly well, you tend to accrue a house, wife and kids, not necessarily in that order. Can't pay the bills or feed to little people on $25-ish per hour.
If they started at $35-40/hour and second year FO was $60-70 range, they would have no problem attracting people. I could pay the mortgage AND eat too on that pay. Bottom line...I think there are fewer and fewer kids coming in to this industry willing to live out of a car for a few years. And unless they are retired military, most ex-mil or displaced corporate/freight guys aren't willing to take that big of a pay cut to fly for a regional.
If they started at $35-40/hour and second year FO was $60-70 range, they would have no problem attracting people. I could pay the mortgage AND eat too on that pay. Bottom line...I think there are fewer and fewer kids coming in to this industry willing to live out of a car for a few years. And unless they are retired military, most ex-mil or displaced corporate/freight guys aren't willing to take that big of a pay cut to fly for a regional.
With that being said, it should also be just a matter of time before AA first year pay goes to the industry standard $67/hr. Not that it needs to, 10,000 of us will gladly go there on that first year pay. But still, if you're image is to be the best, which I think AA will be long term, you have to actually be the best...
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