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Old 01-11-2014, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by VenetianFryCook
I think the concern on the US side is philosophy. The gripes include the length of checklists at AA and some of the old-school philosophy (captains starting engines and the like) behind the design of procedures..
Spot on. I really, really, REALLY hope the USAirways cockpit culture prevails. AA's ancestral worship has our captains doing strange things the F/Os should really be doing while on the ground. Starting engines. Making PAs while taxiing. Answering to EVERY dad gummed item on the already-long checklist. Etc, etc. It needs to change. A CA should have just one duty while on the ground - staying heads up while taxiing. That's it.

My favorite story. On the -80, years ago. CA is starting the right engine while taxiing. Left hand on tiller, right hand staying up on start switch. Then he goes off and makes a PA to boot. That's right, he's got THREE things going on while at the same time taxiing at a busy airport. Me, I was just shaking my head in disbelief.

Oh, and the CA making the PA while taxiing was not a sterile violation: AA is the only airline that I know of that got an FAA exemption to allow the CA to make the "prepare for takeoff" PA. Don't ask, I have no clue.

USAir bubbas, you need to push for your procedures!
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Old 01-12-2014, 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Sliceback
The presented did not say it was the "minimum". He said it was the official number but he believed, in his personal opinion, that it would be more(I agree with him).

He stated that AA is training capacity constrained.

Personal observation - Drilling in the small parking lot, between the sim building and the ground school building, last month and the drillers said it would be for a sim building extension. SimP said he thought it was enough room for 4 sims. Size seems correct.
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Old 01-12-2014, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by aa73
Spot on. I really, really, REALLY hope the USAirways cockpit culture prevails. AA's ancestral worship has our captains doing strange things the F/Os should really be doing while on the ground. Starting engines. Making PAs while taxiing. Answering to EVERY dad gummed item on the already-long checklist. Etc, etc. It needs to change. A CA should have just one duty while on the ground - staying heads up while taxiing. That's it.

My favorite story. On the -80, years ago. CA is starting the right engine while taxiing. Left hand on tiller, right hand staying up on start switch. Then he goes off and makes a PA to boot. That's right, he's got THREE things going on while at the same time taxiing at a busy airport. Me, I was just shaking my head in disbelief.

Oh, and the CA making the PA while taxiing was not a sterile violation: AA is the only airline that I know of that got an FAA exemption to allow the CA to make the "prepare for takeoff" PA. Don't ask, I have no clue.

USAir bubbas, you need to push for your procedures!

That is interesting, especially with the industry wide push to move most checklist items to be accomplished before the aircraft ever starts rolling (obviously starting the other engine or engines on the taxi is an exemption).

What drives the AA philosophy of the captain doing everything, there surely must be a reason behind it. We had the same thing at Skywest and I always thought that it was too high a workload for the captain. And if the pilot group agrees that this should be changed, where is the resistance coming from?
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Old 01-12-2014, 07:56 AM
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AA has always been a captains airline. If you're on the 80, you can turn on your landing lights and adjust the temps w/out asking
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Old 01-12-2014, 11:55 AM
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I just published my App, including the assessment. I guess from this point forward, no news is good news until you get an email for the video interview? If you get the TBNT email, does that occur within a few weeks or days of publishing the app, or when they do a mass review of some sort? Just curious what to expect...

Has anyone with availability > 6 months gotten a call to interview? Or are they fulfilling short term demand interviewing/reviewing apps for immediate availability? Wondering if there is a pool building or not...or if there is a correlation between availability and getting an email/call for advancement in the process....thanks.
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Originally Posted by Jetnfast
I just published my App, including the assessment. I guess from this point forward, no news is good news until you get an email for the video interview? If you get the TBNT email, does that occur within a few weeks or days of publishing the app, or when they do a mass review of some sort? Just curious what to expect...

Has anyone with availability > 6 months gotten a call to interview? Or are they fulfilling short term demand interviewing/reviewing apps for immediate availability? Wondering if there is a pool building or not...or if there is a correlation between availability and getting an email/call for advancement in the process....thanks.
I am also very interested. My availability date is 7 months out. I have heard of DL and UA going out 6 months, would like to know what AA is doing.
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Old 01-12-2014, 09:15 PM
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Some people have applied since October and haven't gotten any feedback from AA. So their either in the pool, or they haven't even gotten to them yet.
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Originally Posted by ghilis101
That is interesting, especially with the industry wide push to move most checklist items to be accomplished before the aircraft ever starts rolling (obviously starting the other engine or engines on the taxi is an exemption).

What drives the AA philosophy of the captain doing everything, there surely must be a reason behind it. We had the same thing at Skywest and I always thought that it was too high a workload for the captain. And if the pilot group agrees that this should be changed, where is the resistance coming from?
Quite simply, ancestral worship and nothing more. As mentioned above, AA is a big Captain's airline. That is mostly a great thing, but not when the CA is performing FO tasks while taxiing.

Resistance? Oh man do I have stories for ya. Getting stuff procedurally changed here is akin to the Titanic's iceberg-avoidance turn rate.
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Old 01-13-2014, 04:18 AM
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Skinner is in from the Airways side and AQP has been his baby. I'd offer that things will change on the AA side (at least as each new Airbus is delivered) more towards flows and fewer/smaller checklists with the Captain only worrying about taxiing. Nothing to get too riled up about, you'll enjoy the 'new' way of doing things.
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I would have ZERO problems with trimming checklists and altering procedures at AA. I've been on the 777 for a while, and the closed-loop electronic checklist is a glorious thing, so there's very little to be done taxiing out. Weights/thrust, flaps, trim. So I've lost touch a bit with some of the older jets' procedures.

What I don't want to lose is the training culture itself; the school instructors and current CKA group are outstanding. It sounds like US also has this, so hopefully we'll mesh very well.

Slightly OT: We have a couple of guys right here from this forum in school as we speak, in the 8 Jan class. I think it'd be really cool if they started a thread describing the experience, the good and the bad.

How about it, new guys?
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