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Old 02-03-2018, 07:32 AM
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Based on my math of pilot retirements versus aircraft retirements, and coupled with the two vacancy bids we've had so far for 2018, I'm forecasting 675 hires for 2018. Hopefully I'm wrong and they hire more... I think 900 is not plausible.
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Old 02-03-2018, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by sumwherelse
If it was there it wasn’t there for long and has since been adjusted. Again I hope you guys are right but I think your hanging on to a pipe dream. I don’t see them hiring 900 this year.
Look at my last post, I cut and pasted for you. The email was from Chuck S. Of crew planning, it’s archived in your aa email 23 Oct 2017. With that said, I agree it won’t happen, I think AFpirate is spot on with 675.
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Old 02-03-2018, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by PRS Guitars
Look at my last post, I cut and pasted for you. The email was from Chuck S. Of crew planning, it’s archived in your aa email 23 Oct 2017. With that said, I agree it won’t happen, I think AFpirate is spot on with 675.
Yea I found that email. That’s the only place I’ve ever seen 900 come from the company and since I rarely check my email that explains why I never saw it. So we can move on now and all agree it ain’t gonna be 900 I think.
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Old 02-03-2018, 03:42 PM
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The memo was from Chuck Schubert.
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Old 02-03-2018, 06:36 PM
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The memo was from Chuck Schubert.
Nah. I think Nunes wrote it.
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Old 02-04-2018, 01:56 AM
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You guys sound like conspiracy theorists with the class numbers. Guess what...
- Numerous sources of info, all of which may be official company numbers from different departments or people
- Training resources change
- Training capacity changes
- High class numbers may decrease as applicants drop at the last minute

I have seen the numbers for this year drop, go up, and drop again. It's entirely possible that every forecast we have seen has been accurate at the time it was forecast.
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Old 02-04-2018, 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Clint
You guys sound like conspiracy theorists with the class numbers. Guess what...
- Numerous sources of info, all of which may be official company numbers from different departments or people
- Training resources change
- Training capacity changes
- High class numbers may decrease as applicants drop at the last minute

I have seen the numbers for this year drop, go up, and drop again. It's entirely possible that every forecast we have seen has been accurate at the time it was forecast.
I think your key words are “...accurate at the time it was forecast.”

We are reporting significantly different numbers within days of each other and sometimes at the same time. That does not mean the forecast changes multiple time in the course of a week or even a day.

It means to me that some data source is obsolete. It needs to be updated. Otherwise we have the old expression, “A man with one watch knows what time it is, a man with two never does.”

At least that is the way I see it.
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Old 02-05-2018, 01:57 PM
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Delta hired more than 1,000 pilots in 2017. Since the airline resumed hiring in 2014, more than 4,000 pilots have joined the seniority list. Newly hired pilots range in age from 23 to 56 years old, and civilian pilots (56 %) outnumbered military pilots (44 %)
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Old 02-05-2018, 05:12 PM
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The 900 posted via the union spreadsheet was total training slots for this year, including MLOA, LTD and various other LOAs coming back.


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Old 02-05-2018, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Cheddar
The 900 posted via the union spreadsheet was total training slots for this year, including MLOA, LTD and various other LOAs coming back.
What is the basis for saying this? What I saw was a table that said ‘2018 New Hire Plan’. (Post #5778 this thread.)

How many MLOA, LTD, and various other LOAs coming back are they forecasting for 2018? Or, if you don’t have that, how many actuals were there in 2017?
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