American interviews and class dates
11-15-2017, 03:46 PM
#5651
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I respectfully disagree. My whole reserve unit is DAL and the underlying theme is that work rules are so good at DAL that widebody FOs make more than NB CAs (what with 200% premium, none of this Recovery Obligation, etc.)
11-16-2017, 05:36 AM
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11-16-2017, 05:57 AM
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Swaayze- 2% increase in the size of the pilot corps. Not the increase of YOY hiring.
Recent 4 yr (?) data (3 sources - AA, APA, DOT) has AA pilot corps growth averaging 1.0% to 1.6% per year.
Lagging the other Big 4’s percentages but still a net positive. I think their averages were 1.7% to 2.5%(DOT only sourced).
Recent 4 yr (?) data (3 sources - AA, APA, DOT) has AA pilot corps growth averaging 1.0% to 1.6% per year.
Lagging the other Big 4’s percentages but still a net positive. I think their averages were 1.7% to 2.5%(DOT only sourced).
11-16-2017, 06:30 PM
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I think a lot of the reason CA goes so junior at Delta is because they do fewer bids than we do and there is a lot of uncertainty as to when they will go to to training, when the next bid will be, etc. I would guess more people will bypass upgrade now that we no longer have monthly bids and see how things shake out before upgrading. PBS seems to create some pretty ugly awards for junior pilots too, not that MIA didn't have that before PBS. Line holder group 2 FO pay is about what Group 4 reserve FO pays. Line holding group 4 FO pays about the same as reserve group 2 CA.
I Adamantly disagree about ur assumption on group 2 v 4 pay. No way group 2 pays the same as group 4 FO pays. I am on reserve and it pays 73-76. Even if I decide to bid a line I fly a 70-75 hour line. Group 4 FO pays $40-$50 more per hour so ur math is flawed. Nobody should be flying 95 hours a month. Get a hobby.
11-17-2017, 05:22 AM
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75 hrs of G2 CA rsv pays the same as 90hrs of G4 FO.
G4 FO’s evaluate upgrading to reserve G2, or staying G4 FO, all the time. They all have an answer to the question “upgrading or staying G4 FO?”
And the frequent answer is “why be on call for the same pay?” For some the answer is “no thanks” and for others being on reserve as a G2 CA, despite the loss of relative seniority but working less, is worth it.
Some hobbies are expensive. More money helps.
G4 FO’s evaluate upgrading to reserve G2, or staying G4 FO, all the time. They all have an answer to the question “upgrading or staying G4 FO?”
And the frequent answer is “why be on call for the same pay?” For some the answer is “no thanks” and for others being on reserve as a G2 CA, despite the loss of relative seniority but working less, is worth it.
Some hobbies are expensive. More money helps.
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