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Old 04-10-2016, 02:40 PM
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2016

MAINLINE DELIVERIES (+55)

- 25 Airbus A321: +6 Q1, +7 Q2, +6 Q3, +6 Q3
- 20 Boeing 737-800: +5 Q1, +5 Q2, +5 Q3, +5 Q4
- 2 Boeing 777-300ER: +2 Q1
- 4 Boeing 787-8: +2 Q1, +2 Q2
- 4 Boeing 787-9: +1 Q3, +3 Q4

MAINLINE RETIREMENTS (-92)

- 4 Airbus A320: -4 Q1
- 13 Boeing 757-200: -9 Q1, -1 Q2, -1 Q3, -2 Q4
- 14 Boeing 767-300ER: -5 Q1, -5 Q3, -4 Q4
- 61 MD-80: -4 Q1, -6 Q2, -37 Q3, -14 Q4

MAINLINE FLEET COUNT AT YE2016 (-37)
I'm counting 715 narrow body aircraft at the end of Q4. Doesn't APA scope only allow for 40% of the narrow body fleet to be large RJs and no more than 75% of the narrow body fleet to be the limit for all RJs? 40% of 715 is 286 large RJs and 75% of 715 is ~536 total RJs. I am not sure exactly how many seat variants there are for the CRJ700 and am unsure how many(if any) classify as large RJs, but in the 1/29/16 fleet update it shows a total of 607 RJs operating at the end of Q4. That is well above the 536 allowed. Am I missing something here or are my 40% and 75% numbers not accurate?
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Any idea of a (numbers) projection of furloughees to return after May 1st ?

And, what's the process for returning pilots to pick base/ seat /equipment. Is there a bid message we can reference on AApilots to see where vacancies will be ?

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Old 04-11-2016, 02:00 AM
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Originally Posted by FliFast
Any idea of a (numbers) projection of furloughees to return after May 1st ?

And, what's the process for returning pilots to pick base/ seat /equipment. Is there a bid message we can reference on AApilots to see where vacancies will be ?

Thx
Not sure as to the process but around 700-800 still out on furlough. AApilots does have a "vacancy notice and short-term forecast"... I don't think new hire or recall bid on the same vacancies..
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Old 04-11-2016, 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by FliFast
Any idea of a (numbers) projection of furloughees to return after May 1st ?

And, what's the process for returning pilots to pick base/ seat /equipment. Is there a bid message we can reference on AApilots to see where vacancies will be ?

Thx
Everyone's guessing 150-200. First calls ('take' rate) see to support that.

You pick by seniority. I think if you have reinstatement rights you get that *if* there's someone junior to you in the bid status(normal rules).

There is no vacancy msg for recallee/new hire slots.

Have you been in touch with the membership committee? They are the SMEs.
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Old 04-11-2016, 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by babs
I'm counting 715 narrow body aircraft at the end of Q4. Doesn't APA scope only allow for 40% of the narrow body fleet to be large RJs and no more than 75% of the narrow body fleet to be the limit for all RJs? 40% of 715 is 286 large RJs and 75% of 715 is ~536 total RJs. I am not sure exactly how many seat variants there are for the CRJ700 and am unsure how many(if any) classify as large RJs, but in the 1/29/16 fleet update it shows a total of 607 RJs operating at the end of Q4. That is well above the 536 allowed. Am I missing something here or are my 40% and 75% numbers not accurate?

Good question.
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Old 04-11-2016, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by babs
I'm counting 715 narrow body aircraft at the end of Q4. Doesn't APA scope only allow for 40% of the narrow body fleet to be large RJs and no more than 75% of the narrow body fleet to be the limit for all RJs? 40% of 715 is 286 large RJs and 75% of 715 is ~536 total RJs. I am not sure exactly how many seat variants there are for the CRJ700 and am unsure how many(if any) classify as large RJs, but in the 1/29/16 fleet update it shows a total of 607 RJs operating at the end of Q4. That is well above the 536 allowed. Am I missing something here or are my 40% and 75% numbers not accurate?
Wish I could give you more info, several people have called foul on scope levels, but as far as I know the company is currently in compliance.
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Old 04-11-2016, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Sliceback
UPT - check out the LUS seniority list on the APA website. It will have the rare data(DOH/DOB). I havn't seen it listed with retirements per year.

Home page>New hires/new members>Seniority/Member/non-member stats>(all three seniority lists link)
The East and West lists I'm seeing here do not have DOB or retirement data on them. Just DOH, so it's really no help. Anyone else have eyes on an LUS (east and west) list with DOB/retirement data?
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You're right. I checked last night. No DOB info.
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It's quite time consuming but you can do a member lookup on the APA website and it shows the person's retirement date. East pilots were oldest-youngest in class, so that can help you go through the seniority list a bit faster to figure out who is senior/younger. If it helps I was hired 6/17/14 at 33 and 11 months and there are 202 on the East list younger/senior to me, 15 on the west list, and 32 on the AA list. The youngest in my class was 30 and the average was probably mid 40's. They weren't hiring as many guys in their 20's after summer 2014.
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Old 04-11-2016, 01:03 PM
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August 2014 was the last Airways hiring class IIRC.
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