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Old 07-03-2015, 02:23 PM
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IMHO, I don't care if I never make G4 CA. I'd rather be 10 minutes from the terminal than chase a seat...just me tho.
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Old 07-03-2015, 02:42 PM
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None of this comes with a guarantee. It's just the projections based on the numbers.

Five year upgrades? Laughable but guys still bring it up as a yardstick. LIke the newhire FE telling us he's going to upgrade in five years. I ask the FO "do you think you're upgrading in five years?" No, and I'm 2000 numbers senior to him.

The retirement numbers, and growth in Group VI jobs, will be stunning for the guys hired today. The early movers, especially after such a long gap in hiring, will do very well.
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Old 07-03-2015, 03:50 PM
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I just want the G4 FO early retirement plan... By the time I get there, I believe I can budget for 76hrs at $200ish an hour. Y'all go be 5 year G2 Captains!!!


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Old 07-03-2015, 04:38 PM
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G4 Four Crew "Dozing for Dollars" line holder takes the same seniority as jr G4 CA.
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Old 07-03-2015, 06:19 PM
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Someone posting on here recently is mr. Right side of the bed
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Old 07-03-2015, 06:25 PM
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Just sharing some stuff...

It's still a great time to get hired

And, after a corporate raider, 4 BK's, one lopsided SLI about to be made even more so by another and witnessing or being involved in uncountable episodes of unbelievable daily BS and wondrous management decisions, I do still like my job and enjoy going to work.

I hope y'all can say the same thing in thirty years.

Unrealistic expectations are a poor foundation.
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Old 07-03-2015, 06:47 PM
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Lots of 787's options will probably be converted, plus more A350's and probably a 777X order will keep the G4 positions coming. They will probably keep the 767's as long as possible with the investment into updating the interiors and improving mx. My guess is 5-7 years G2 upgrade time for someone hired 2013/2014. G4 captain in 12-15 years as predicted in earlier threads. I see AA as trending towards keeping our intl flying in-house and not JV'ing like others do. It will be a great G4 airline gig if you want that. *all subject to change
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Old 07-04-2015, 05:44 AM
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I hope ya' all are right.

If so, then yours truly can "retire" to dozing for dollars for my last 5 years too.

Been hauling folks around the midwest in light twins for a long time now. A nap would ne nice....
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Old 07-04-2015, 10:19 AM
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Sorry, new guy here. Do we really have "dozing for dollars" at AA? Did I miss the sarcasm or were you referring to being a FB in a 777?
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Old 07-04-2015, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Flying101
Does anyone know how many pilots from Envoy, PSA, and Piedmont as per contract have to be in every new hire class? As per Piedmont contract I think it's only 3.
It's complicated for Envoy. It's 50% of each class that can be metered down to 20 per month for 824 Pilots. As long as its 50% by the time that group is done that's legal. It goes to 30 per month after the first EMb175 comes. After the 824 it drops to 25 then eventually drops to 15 and some formula of how many pilots Envoy has.

I think there is still maybe another 500 in the 824.
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