Originally Posted by Wiskey Driver

See this is where we keep having the disagreement, there was no windfall. Now I know you think there was but the truth be told there simply was not. Yes I have heard all your arguments about a 17 yr guy matched up with a two yr guy but one need look no further than where on your list was the 17 yr pilot?? He was on the very bottom of your list sitting on res waiting to be furloughed.

The east mindset is take that guy who was a prayer away from being a furloughed 17yr first officer and use doh to elevate him to mid level line holding captain. Ask any east pilot and they will look you dead in the eye with straight face and say "that's fair and not a windfall". Utterly amazed by that attitude but they say we are the problem

We were not all in the east was and forced our hand. The east set the rules, the east picked the arbitrator and the east forced this result. The east then used majority status to stall us all out of tens of thousands of dollars. Now the east is about to be the minority and we out west relish the thought. We will not lift a finger to aid you with the APA and that you can bank on. They know it too.

WD at AWA

Originally Posted by Wiskey Driver

Not nuts at all what it shows is that you were scared to death of that possibility. Now let me clue you in to something, the wagon train always moved west never east! Just remember the prison you erected for us will now be housing you. Karma is one hell of a thing and just look at how its lined up. The bankrupt carrier is the larger one and you have taught the world how to stall in managements favor.

Relay what goes around comes around and now you will be the minority no usapa to bail you out this time. usapa is a disgrace to the profession that treated west pilots with total disregard and complete lack of representation. Tick Tock my friend tick tock.

WD at AWA

Originally Posted by R57 relay

So, what did you guys do to deserve the Karma you've been getting the last 6 years?

Originally Posted by cactiboss

Misfortune of Merge with usairways

Originally Posted by eaglefly

So by that same token, if Silver should enable your beliefs and essentially disregard the Nic allowing a 3-way with AA allowing you to continue saying "Xin Loi" (sorry about that) to the West and you subsequently end up just as disappointed with the AA SLI's results for East pilots, will you look in the mirror and say the same thing to yourself or cry to the heavens about what that concept of "all in" has then brought to you ?

Remember, another SLI will likely be in arbitration play and this time there will be no end runs around a result you don't like from a process you agreed to. If you win against the West, but then lose against APA it will be because arbitration was required in the first place, especially due to an unwavering USAPA DOH jihad.

Should that occur, I'll bet you'll be hearing from those in the West what you just told them, that being you should have been more pragmatic and known the risks.

Originally Posted by R57 relay

So you're being punished for something you had nothing to do with? No, I think it goes deeper.

Originally Posted by cactiboss

Misfortune of Merge with usairways

Originally Posted by Wiskey Driver

Oh do tell, do tell??

WD at AWA

Originally Posted by flybywire44

No, both sides were too greedy and someone is going to lose—the jury is still out.

This could still go any number of ways.

Originally Posted by flyinawa

BOTH sides? GMAFB.

Originally Posted by R57 relay

Got your attention, huh?

I don't believe in Karma, at least not on earth. Bad things happen to good people and good things happen to bad ones. The best I can hope for is that the big guy sorts it out after it's over here and I don't spend my life trying to do it for him like some people do.

For so many people this fight lost it's objectivity. It became a jihad for some on both sides.

We decided to let the courts decide and that's where it is.