cactiboss

In case some of you missed the company's position to the NMB

The New US Airways Pilot Forum

Wiskey Driver

You need not worry about my health as I am fit as a fiddle. I was playing poker and having drinks at a party.

WD at AWA

R57 relay

Naw, I'd rather throw you sticks and watch you fetch.

That TA has other other language that counters your stretch on "negotiate a single collective bargaining agreement."

Also, go look at the timeline USAPA sent you and the language in there about when "negotiations to produce a JCBA."

R57 relay

Okay........

flybywire44

That website requires personally identifying information. The West Class group "AOL" already leaked legacy US Airways pilot names, social security numbers and addresses on the internet.

No thanks—give us a public link if you really want that document to be read.


My jaw dropped when I read this: "The Mou now removes that "negotiation", It can never happen now."

Where can we listen to Kirby say this?

LittleBoyBlew

With the passage of time, the nic fades ever more into oblivion, and Cacti grows ever more desperate....wont be long before delirium takes over his feeble mind. Soon he will learn to accept the inevitable conclusion to these last 7 years...What will he do??????

cactusmike

Oh, how little you know or comprehend. This is just heating up.

LittleBoyBlew

All kidding aside Mike... AOL will get its day in court. The judge will then determine if DFR2 has merit to proceed and if so, a trial will ensue..New discovery. Remember "clean slate".. All I'm saying is don't pop the champagne corks just yet, because AOL has a difficult case to prove...
Regardless of which way this thing goes, the appeals court will most likely render the FINAL decision..
This time around USAPA has the MOU as strong evidence of a "legitimate union purpose" for submitting a SL other than the nic..
With that being said, I also question the legality of USAPAs attempt at submitting a joint DOH list..In MY opinion, worth about .02$, there will be 3 lists submitted for arbitration...

Wiskey Driver

Not even going to get that far. Most are not looking to the obvious and its there where that true answer lies. One court/jury has ruled that usapa violated its DFR. Two courts have ruled that the DFR is not ripe neither of which ruled on the merits.`

Parker has learned from this last mistake and although he's made a ton from the east's refusal to honor their obligations, he has been largely unable to really complete his plan. The company has already put into writing that they know they must honor that arbitration or face massive litigation. This time Parker worked out the money aspect first, next will be POI followed quickly by single carrier status. Usapa will cease to exist as a bargaining agent that day in favor of the larger APA. The only thing that will be left of usapa will be is a merger delegate (committee) to present its position in the SLI. The west will be allowed to present its position as well as the APA presenting theirs. Now the funny thing is that all parties will be be APA at this time.

The parties will be allowed to present their cases to the panel with testimony and witnesses much like they did in the past. It is my understanding that one of the west witnesses will be none other than Arbitrator George Nic himself! This is really going to be fun to watch.

In the end the NIC list will be used to merge with APA thereby removing the need for the courts to make any decisions about arbitration's. I am sure that a small group of east pilots will file law suits but they will fizzle out over time.

WD at AWA

R57 relay

Have you read the MOU? Parker washed his hands of this.