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03-26-2013, 07:02 PM
#732
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Think the 9th also said, can't rule on a bargaining position. Come to us with finalized work, and show us how you are harmed by the final document. THEN we can rule. As they don't work in assumptions or what the West THINKS will happen. As one judge stated, Just because they NIC isn't used, doesn't automatically make a DFR......as whatever is the end result MAY not harm the west, without knowing the end game, can't rule.....Not Ripe......
Have a feeling your gonna hear those words again.....
Have a feeling your gonna hear those words again.....
03-26-2013, 07:11 PM
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Well the 9th made a ruling based on the belief the union and company would negotiate a new seniority list, ratify it in a contract then the west could sue. The Mou now removes that "negotiation", It can never happen now. Go listen to Kirby, at por there is no more east/west and technically we are allowed to fly each others aircraft. See the difference?
Sorry getting tired of repeating myself..So I cut and pasted from another post...
03-26-2013, 07:16 PM
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Well the 9th made a ruling based on the belief the union and company would negotiate a new seniority list, ratify it in a contract then the west could sue. The Mou now removes that "negotiation", It can never happen now. Go listen to Kirby, at por there is no more east/west and technically we are allowed to fly each others aircraft. See the difference?
I thought so said seniority could NOT be negotiated??
03-26-2013, 07:17 PM
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Sharing equipment was not allowed under the current TA.. At POR the restrictions elapse, along with everything else under THAT agreement. East/west share a common ops. certificate. All ac are on that certificate therefore nothing inhibits the Co. From mixing ac..I bet you a quarter that crews will not be mixed!!
Sorry getting tired of repeating myself..So I cut and pasted from another post...
Sorry getting tired of repeating myself..So I cut and pasted from another post...
03-26-2013, 07:21 PM
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You are confusing 2 mergers my man, the us/Awa merger was in 2005, years before MB came about. 10h only speaks of usairways/aa pilots. FYI, MB specifically prohibits its application to mergers prior to MB being implemented.
03-26-2013, 07:25 PM
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"Sharing equipment" is not the point, the point is the single agreement required to implement the Nicolau is in place, usapa made clear the mou did not affect the west rights to the Nic, so what is usapa's legitimate purpose to not only not implement the Nic but propose a seniority list that benefits the east pilots at the expense of the west?
h. US Airways agrees that neither this Memorandum nor the JCBA shall provide a basis for
changing the seniority lists currently in effect at US Airways other than through the process set forth in
this Paragraph 10.
changing the seniority lists currently in effect at US Airways other than through the process set forth in
this Paragraph 10.
03-26-2013, 07:28 PM
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That merger was NEVER CONSUMATED..Therefore the NEW MERGER requires NEW PROTOCOLS..Can you repeat after me...L E G I T I M A T E U N I O N P U R P O S E....
03-26-2013, 07:41 PM
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Because nothing in the MOU will affect the "LISTS" currently in effect at LCC..
h. US Airways agrees that neither this Memorandum nor the JCBA shall provide a basis for
changing the seniority lists currently in effect at US Airways other than through the process set forth in
this Paragraph 10.
changing the seniority lists currently in effect at US Airways other than through the process set forth in
this Paragraph 10.
03-26-2013, 07:43 PM
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Because nothing in the MOU will affect the "LISTS" currently in effect at LCC..
h. US Airways agrees that neither this Memorandum nor the JCBA shall provide a basis for
changing the seniority lists currently in effect at US Airways other than through the process set forth in
this Paragraph 10.
changing the seniority lists currently in effect at US Airways other than through the process set forth in
this Paragraph 10.
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