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#691
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Joined APC: Jun 2008
Posts: 8,350
Good news. That's 3/4 of the affected pilots happy with a looooooong fence. BTW, next time you see an AA pilot, you might thank them for providing that pay raise, for without the merger you'd remain the lowest paid legacy pilots for the remainder of most of your careers.
#692
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Joined APC: Jun 2008
Posts: 8,350
First of all, how, when, and were the growth will go is beyond OUR/YOUR control..Pretty ballsy statement on your part. Considering the hard FACT that the ratified AA lbfo contained up to 50% of domestic market outsourcing!! You're welcome!! I guess the BK filling has yet to bring your feet back on the ground..... Secondly, any "FENCES" will be part of the SLI award, not after, as you imply... And finally, any "fences" that might detract from the SYNERGIES expected by the Co. will not be allowed. Why does the Co. have a third party interest in the SLI process? To keep the fences from affecting the overall plan. The UC want their pay-out QUICK!!The synergies that DP promised, cannot be rationalized unless the Co. has freedom to deploy equipment at will.. AA will most likely get a 7 year fence on the WB. Beyond that, anything else is not probable..
You must have really gotten worked up in between there somewhere. Did you go cuckoo for coco puffs and take in too much sugar ? Until the dust settles, doesn't the MOU provide for essentially a 'status quo' on order/options and who operates them ?
I suppose Doug could try to turn CLT, PHL or PHX into the next mega-hub's, but I doubt it. Even if he did want to, he couldn't be using legacy AA orders/options for it. I think you're your foaming at the mouth at the prospects of that, which has as much chance as DOH. As far as fences and what arbitration provides based on career expectations, the assumption that you'll get the express lane to the left seat of AA's narrowbody fleet is a bit premature. Perhaps it's best to see what intestinal distress ultimately results from the gluttony of your currently undigested meal is before ravenously eyeing AA's dessert tray.
#693
Good news. That's 3/4 of the affected pilots happy with a looooooong fence. BTW, next time you see an AA pilot, you might thank them for providing that pay raise, for without the merger you'd remain the lowest paid legacy pilots for the remainder of most of your careers.
Last edited by LittleBoyBlew; 03-26-2013 at 08:21 AM.
#694
EF...If this SLI in fact considers LOS, you might be affected. After all your Flow Thru LOS is only 4 years....APA might throw your group under the bus if the NATIVES can benefit from it..They can put a BOWL over your head and restrict you to F/O, narrow body, etc, etc...
#695
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Joined APC: Jun 2008
Posts: 8,350
Your welcome...I very much doubt that the AA pilots had emerged this BK smelling like roses had DP not stepped in and provided the APA with the leverage that they got..Your welcome for the frozen A plan. Your welcome for the increased value of your 13.5% equity. Your welcome for the improvements in your MOU, up to and including the rescinded outsourcing provisions in the LBFO. Your welcome for the satisfaction of FIRING the AA management that drove you into the ground..Your welcome for sharing OUR attrition...
As for the A-plans chill, I can't see how U pilots had anything to do with that. You're cashing Gothbaum's check on that one and for the rest of what you claim to be providing, that's bunk too. Parker negotiated almost exclusively up this point with APA and USAPA was nowhere to be found and U pilots even farther in the rear view mirror.
Nice try Blew, but you should stop listening to the Dice man and consider another line of work, even you do need the money.
Last edited by eaglefly; 03-26-2013 at 08:29 AM.
#697
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Joined APC: Jun 2008
Posts: 8,350
EF...If this SLI in fact considers LOS, you might be affected. After all your Flow Thru LOS is only 4 years....APA might throw your group under the bus if the NATIVES can benefit from it..They can put a BOWL over your head and restrict you to F/O, narrow body, etc, etc...
Last edited by eaglefly; 03-26-2013 at 08:45 AM.
#699
As for the A-plans chill, I can't see how U pilots had anything to do with that. You're cashing Gothbaum's check on that one and for the rest of what you claim to be providing, that's bunk too. Parker negotiated almost exclusively up this point with APA and USAPA was nowhere to be found and U pilots even farther in the rear view mirror.
Last edited by LittleBoyBlew; 03-26-2013 at 08:43 AM.
#700
[snicker] As for flow-throughs.........to screw them pointlessly like you giggle over, it would hose natives and TWA alike junior to them in the process, although I know the thought of DOH combined with unobstructed access to AA orders/options and hosing as many AA pilots in the process is beyond exiting for you, but that USAPA lollipop truly seems too hallucinatory and intoxicating. Next, you'll think you can fly. I'd stay away from tall buildings if I were you.
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