R57 relay

The Nic lives in the TA and it looks to me as if the TA will be dead before the APA assumes responsibility:

"4. It is the intent of the Parties that, as of the Effective Date, the terms and conditions of employment
for pilots employed by New American Airlines and US Airways will be set by the MTA (as defined in
Paragraph 1(a)) and in accordance with the process specified herein. The Parties further understand,
however, that it will take some period of time for those terms to be implemented. Accordingly, except
for those terms specifically identified in Paragraph 3, the Parties agree that each term of the MTA
shall be applicable to all US Airways pilots at the earliest practicable time for each such term, and
such terms, when applicable, shall govern and displace any conflicting or wholly or partially
inconsistent provision of the former US Airways pilot agreements or the status quo arising thereunder.
Once the MTA has been fully implemented, it shall fully displace and render a nullity any prior
collective bargaining agreements applicable to US Airways pilots and any status quo arising
thereunder."

What if USAPA doesn't try to change the Nicolau award, but instead just presents separate east and west lists to the process?

R57 relay

He gets much greater advancement vs. standalone with much greater opportunity. At the expense of east pilots. It's as clear as it can be.

I think that USAPA's DOH scheme, at least as Seham presented it, did the same thing to the west. It did have some protections for the west where the Nic had none.

R57 relay

But when east pilots used the separate ops provision of the TA, we were lying, cheating scum.

Not sure how much integrity I can handle.

cactiboss

And this is why the company is a named defendant. Why the outrage?usapa says this is a "merit less" suit so you got nothing to worry about. Save it for the suit that drops at por, that one will upset you for sure.

cactiboss

We have a contract at por, anything that is presented that is not the Nic must have a LUP.

cactiboss

it's in your contract as modified by the TA
we went to binding arbitration and it was placed in your contract as required by the TA

what never was was a doh list, there is a list accepted and placed in your contract called the Nicolau.
Well that is for a judge to decide isn't it.

LittleBoyBlew

Why because the voices in your head tell you so? Cant wait to hear the judges argument when he tells you to **** and leave his court room with your pathetic claim...You guys trully are pathetic...Talk about far reaching..

cactiboss

Didn't silver say you needed an LUP? She also said the company must ensure you have an LUP. So in fact it's not the voice in my head but a federal judges voice that says you need an LUP. Now that a you voted in a contract, what is your LUP to discard the Nicolau ?

Wiskey Driver

Ok lets just be honest here for a moment shall we. So you statement was he gets much greater advancement vs a stand alone. Ok so the very same can be said of that whole merger. The east was dead prior and since has been given new life at the expense of an entire pilot group.

This thing will be over before it starts simply due to the fact that the new company is not going to go on as before nor will the DOJ allow it to merge under those conditions. The company is not going to let itself be sued and the APA will not allow themselves to be held up for years while a court decides that an arbitration is an arbitration. Douglas will finally be forced to act and based on the companies letter to the NMB they know the only out is force the the east into submission and now they have the numbers with the APA to do it.

I am sick of this whole mess and its an embarrassment to even tell people that I work for this outfit. There was an agreement and binding is binding period end of story.

WD at AWA

LittleBoyBlew

Pst...Cacti, just because you repeat the same $hit all the time, doesn't make it fact..Please define "legitimate union purpose"....and not YOUR version.