AOL update
03-13-2013, 10:02 AM
#471
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What was the company's answer to AOLs letter? Did they agree the TA is now complete and the Nic is sealed?
You guys say now "Aw shucks,we don't want to harm the merger." That's not how your letters were worded. You didn't get results so now you claim the MOU that your attorneys told you to vote for is illegal. Integrity.
You guys say now "Aw shucks,we don't want to harm the merger." That's not how your letters were worded. You didn't get results so now you claim the MOU that your attorneys told you to vote for is illegal. Integrity.
03-13-2013, 10:04 AM
#472
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The APA has inherited the dfr responsibility by the time this happens. You think they are going to let "usapa merger committee" commit dfr?
03-13-2013, 10:11 AM
#473
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USAPA is free to negotiate a SLI. The 9th and Silver said so.
Your definition of DFR falls short of its intended objective.....And NO the MOU is NOT an JCBA for the east/west..
If AOL had argued for a TWO list (east/west) submission, they might have a case.
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03-13-2013, 10:22 AM
#474
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It accidentally got cut off and I didn't notice. There will be no direct discussions because usapa won't be able to put forward their position until the court case is resolved. The multiple cases we are about to file won't be done until after usapa is gone. Make sense?
The SLI process should start around Sept. There is good chance that none of your cases will have been heard yet, right? You think you will get an injunction ?
03-13-2013, 11:02 AM
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No one on the west is saying the MOU is illegal. We are saying that the SLI should proceed with the Nicolau as the LCC list.
The west voted for the MOU because it provided a joint contract to force the Nicolau issue, it represented the only way to get out of the impass on the seniority issue and it will provide the means to neuter the east controlled union that has never represented the west pilots. Forcing litigation will either prove our case once and for all or it will fail. Either way this mess will be over and we will be done with us airways.
The west voted for the MOU because it provided a joint contract to force the Nicolau issue, it represented the only way to get out of the impass on the seniority issue and it will provide the means to neuter the east controlled union that has never represented the west pilots. Forcing litigation will either prove our case once and for all or it will fail. Either way this mess will be over and we will be done with us airways.
03-13-2013, 11:30 AM
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No one on the west is saying the MOU is illegal. We are saying that the SLI should proceed with the Nicolau as the LCC list.
The west voted for the MOU because it provided a joint contract to force the Nicolau issue, it represented the only way to get out of the impass on the seniority issue and it will provide the means to neuter the east controlled union that has never represented the west pilots. Forcing litigation will either prove our case once and for all or it will fail. Either way this mess will be over and we will be done with us airways.
The west voted for the MOU because it provided a joint contract to force the Nicolau issue, it represented the only way to get out of the impass on the seniority issue and it will provide the means to neuter the east controlled union that has never represented the west pilots. Forcing litigation will either prove our case once and for all or it will fail. Either way this mess will be over and we will be done with us airways.
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03-13-2013, 12:57 PM
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03-13-2013, 01:06 PM
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??? What you talking about Willis??
But yet AOL continues its FIGHT TO THE DEATH at all costs!!
Why? Because the risks can reap such great rewards!!...You know whiskey, if the judge reiterates the 9th and Silvers mandate, you boys will have to live with a SINGLE DOH list ....Why not argue to have TWO separate listS ??? As the MOU implies..The west ratified the MOU by an overwhelming margin....
Did you guys not read the document? Or did you simply take Marty's word..
But yet AOL continues its FIGHT TO THE DEATH at all costs!!
Why? Because the risks can reap such great rewards!!...You know whiskey, if the judge reiterates the 9th and Silvers mandate, you boys will have to live with a SINGLE DOH list ....Why not argue to have TWO separate listS ??? As the MOU implies..The west ratified the MOU by an overwhelming margin....
Did you guys not read the document? Or did you simply take Marty's word..
Oh and btw Im not clued in to what Marty Harper has or has not said, I place my faith in the court system, that same system that you seem to cherry pick bits and pieces in order to make your point. Now be a man and finish the 9th circuits statement. Come'on you know the part where it talks about ripeness and not merit? Or the part from Judge Silver where she states "a ruling by a neutral arbitrator is powerful evidence that a FAIR result was reached"??? Dont cherry pick, it makes your argument look weak.
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03-13-2013, 01:09 PM
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03-13-2013, 01:25 PM
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The SLI process should start around Sept. There is good chance that none of your cases will have been heard yet, right? You think you will get an injunction ?
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