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03-08-2013, 03:34 PM
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IF-A big IF with the rulings currently standing and DJ 1 under appeal. IMHO, as always.
If I understand you right, you think the APA will just spin their wheels in the negotiation phase, say "We have to go to arbitration, then by the time we are ready to go there the APA will be our CBA and ignore everything USAPA has done. Right/
If I understand you right, you think the APA will just spin their wheels in the negotiation phase, say "We have to go to arbitration, then by the time we are ready to go there the APA will be our CBA and ignore everything USAPA has done. Right/
03-08-2013, 03:41 PM
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03-08-2013, 03:44 PM
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Under you premise, what would keep the APA from taking the really safe road. Take US pilots data to the arbitrator and say "Their SLI was a mess and is still in dispute. If we side with either, we will be sued. You figure it our or let's wait until we get a definitive legal ruling."
03-08-2013, 03:56 PM
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03-08-2013, 04:03 PM
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Under you premise, what would keep the APA from taking the really safe road. Take US pilots data to the arbitrator and say "Their SLI was a mess and is still in dispute. If we side with either, we will be sued. You figure it our or let's wait until we get a definitive legal ruling."
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03-08-2013, 04:31 PM
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03-08-2013, 07:24 PM
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so in effect usapa got around the Nic by negotiating an agreement with the company and apa that makes the Nic irrelevant, is that what you are saying?
We would be fine with that as long as the Nic was also presented along with the full story, as a matter of fact Marty asks for that exactly.
We would be fine with that as long as the Nic was also presented along with the full story, as a matter of fact Marty asks for that exactly.
I think they think they got around the Nic way before the MOU and the wording in it was just to keep out an end run around their court rulings, as vague as they are.
Yes, if the whole story of the Nic was told. I think the east ALPA MEC report to the ALPA BOD followed with what has happened with separate ops would do well.
Starting from your current list would be much better than starting from a combined DOH list, just not the windfall for the bottom third to half the Nic would provide.
03-08-2013, 08:02 PM
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I often have no idea what those running USAPA think. I get my info. just like you do. I have no standing in the union other than being a MIGS.
I think they think they got around the Nic way before the MOU and the wording in it was just to keep out an end run around their court rulings, as vague as they are.
Yes, if the whole story of the Nic was told. I think the east ALPA MEC report to the ALPA BOD followed with what has happened with separate ops would do well.
Starting from your current list would be much better than starting from a combined DOH list, just not the windfall for the bottom third to half the Nic would provide.
I think they think they got around the Nic way before the MOU and the wording in it was just to keep out an end run around their court rulings, as vague as they are.
Yes, if the whole story of the Nic was told. I think the east ALPA MEC report to the ALPA BOD followed with what has happened with separate ops would do well.
Starting from your current list would be much better than starting from a combined DOH list, just not the windfall for the bottom third to half the Nic would provide.
03-08-2013, 08:17 PM
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Now do you see why there is absolutely no DFR? You can continue to provide a full employment act to your attorneys...but you have no case. None. Were I the judge, I would dismiss it in summary judgment.
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