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#2951
Flies With The Hat On
Joined APC: Aug 2006
Position: Right of the Left Seat
Posts: 1,339
No, this makes no sense whatsoever and you sound like Bill Clinton discussing Monica Lewinsky ("I DID NOT have sex with that woman !). It is the cop out of the decade on this forum and to claim your illogical "facts" are relevant to issues that ONLY depend on what seniority list you reside on and nothing else is nonsense. It also is exactly the same type of evasive psychobabble USAPA uses, so I can see why you rationalize and defend their actions with such zeal. There are only East pilots and West pilots and how are they have been defined and WILL be defined is by which of TWO (not three) seniority lists exist at US Airways.
You are an EAST PILOT period and when it comes to Nicolau issues you are an EAST PILOT period. To argue with West pilots and claim you are not is absurd. If you are a separate (non-East pilot), you and the other 600 pilots who were hired after X date should demand to be a separate third seniority list. The one immutable fact about the Nicolau conflict at your carrier and the SLI bringing our two carriers together is that pilots are defined by which of THREE seniority lists they presently exist on (East, West and AA) and if you come here to discuss/debate issues, your situation ONLY depends on which of three places you exist, NOT on "social networks" or beer drinking clubs. There are a lot of "demographics" here at AA, natives (street hires), acquired pilots like Reno. TWA and finally flow-thru's. To use your demented logic, those who aren't street-hires should proclaim themselves not to be AA pilots. Again, if you exist on the East pilots seniority list, are represented by USAPA, you ARE an "East pilot" and you DO have a dog in all these fights (on one post you claimed you didn't, which is complete cluelessness).
I knew you'd try to rationalize this ridiculousness just like you're doing with USAPA's MOU actions (which seems to be your primary focus here) and so it's of no surprise. For someone who now claims NOT to be an East pilot and have [laughter] "no dog in this fight" when talking about the Nicolau, why do you spend virtually all of your time defending their (not yours, of course) union ? Fine, if you want to claim you're not deliberately misrepresenting yourself, we'll switch that to a realization for everyone here that you are in denial of who you are and exist in a fantasy world. AFAIC though, you're credibility is still shot.
You are an EAST PILOT period and when it comes to Nicolau issues you are an EAST PILOT period. To argue with West pilots and claim you are not is absurd. If you are a separate (non-East pilot), you and the other 600 pilots who were hired after X date should demand to be a separate third seniority list. The one immutable fact about the Nicolau conflict at your carrier and the SLI bringing our two carriers together is that pilots are defined by which of THREE seniority lists they presently exist on (East, West and AA) and if you come here to discuss/debate issues, your situation ONLY depends on which of three places you exist, NOT on "social networks" or beer drinking clubs. There are a lot of "demographics" here at AA, natives (street hires), acquired pilots like Reno. TWA and finally flow-thru's. To use your demented logic, those who aren't street-hires should proclaim themselves not to be AA pilots. Again, if you exist on the East pilots seniority list, are represented by USAPA, you ARE an "East pilot" and you DO have a dog in all these fights (on one post you claimed you didn't, which is complete cluelessness).
I knew you'd try to rationalize this ridiculousness just like you're doing with USAPA's MOU actions (which seems to be your primary focus here) and so it's of no surprise. For someone who now claims NOT to be an East pilot and have [laughter] "no dog in this fight" when talking about the Nicolau, why do you spend virtually all of your time defending their (not yours, of course) union ? Fine, if you want to claim you're not deliberately misrepresenting yourself, we'll switch that to a realization for everyone here that you are in denial of who you are and exist in a fantasy world. AFAIC though, you're credibility is still shot.
You shrugged off this post: http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/am...ml#post1610181
I am flattered that you can disregard honest discussion about the MOU, McCaskill-Bond, and Merger Protocol agreement only to fixate your attention to personal attacks. —My perspective, must register with you greatly.
I've fully explained how Third-List pilots on the legacy USAirways seniority list are not to be confused with East pilots. We did not expel ALPA. Nor did we vacate the Nic. Whether your can accept this reality or not is your individual choice.
#2952
Banned
Joined APC: Jun 2008
Posts: 8,350
You should not seek to collectively judge individuals as being part group to find basis for explaining away the opinions of people you disagree with. Collectively judging people is akin to racism.
You shrugged off this post: http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/am...ml#post1610181
I am flattered that you can disregard honest discussion about the MOU, McCaskill-Bond, and Merger Protocol agreement only to fixate your attention to personal attacks. —My perspective, must register with you greatly.
I've fully explained how Third-List pilots on the legacy USAirways seniority list are not to be confused with East pilots. We did not expel ALPA. Nor did we vacate the Nic.
You shrugged off this post: http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/am...ml#post1610181
I am flattered that you can disregard honest discussion about the MOU, McCaskill-Bond, and Merger Protocol agreement only to fixate your attention to personal attacks. —My perspective, must register with you greatly.
I've fully explained how Third-List pilots on the legacy USAirways seniority list are not to be confused with East pilots. We did not expel ALPA. Nor did we vacate the Nic.
I suppose next you'll declare me a member of the Manson family.
Please. The fact you would even attempt to correlate anything I've said on this forum with racism to either defend yourself or disparage me is obnoxious and indicative of someone who is truly out where the busses don't run. The fact you would even reference that term is disgusting. I find each attempt you make at deflection to be more pathetic then the last. There's nothing you can say to alter this equation for me, especially with this latest vile inference toward me, so perhaps it's time to stop digging. For the purposes of SLI discussions, there are only three positions a pilot is in and it's based on which seniority list they presently reside on.
Your compadre says 3rd listers aren't on the East seniority list which must mean US Airways East pilots have two separate lists. I dunno, are any of you guys capable of shooting straight ?
Last edited by eaglefly; 03-27-2014 at 04:14 PM.
#2953
Banned
Joined APC: Nov 2008
Position: A330
Posts: 1,043
#2954
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,967
#2955
Banned
Joined APC: Nov 2008
Position: A330
Posts: 1,043
The Third Listers are saying they are tired of this East / West feces and I don't blame them, just want it to be over with. Then this eagle boy is up in the Third Lister's faces. Something tells me eagle boy will not be so tough face to face.
Scandal is coming on, later.
#2956
Flies With The Hat On
Joined APC: Aug 2006
Position: Right of the Left Seat
Posts: 1,339
So your response now is that I'm a racist ?
I suppose next you'll declare me a member of the Manson family.
Please. The fact you would even attempt to correlate anything I've said on this forum with racism to either defend yourself or disparage me is obnoxious and indicative of someone who is truly out where the busses don't run. The fact you would even reference that term is disgusting. I find each attempt you make at deflection to be more pathetic then the last. There's nothing you can say to alter this equation for me, especially with this latest vile inference toward me, so perhaps it's time to stop digging. For the purposes of SLI discussions, there are only three positions a pilot is in and it's based on which seniority list they presently reside on.
Your compadre says 3rd listers aren't on the East seniority list which must mean US Airways East pilots have two separate lists. I dunno, are any of you guys capable of shooting straight ?
I suppose next you'll declare me a member of the Manson family.
Please. The fact you would even attempt to correlate anything I've said on this forum with racism to either defend yourself or disparage me is obnoxious and indicative of someone who is truly out where the busses don't run. The fact you would even reference that term is disgusting. I find each attempt you make at deflection to be more pathetic then the last. There's nothing you can say to alter this equation for me, especially with this latest vile inference toward me, so perhaps it's time to stop digging. For the purposes of SLI discussions, there are only three positions a pilot is in and it's based on which seniority list they presently reside on.
Your compadre says 3rd listers aren't on the East seniority list which must mean US Airways East pilots have two separate lists. I dunno, are any of you guys capable of shooting straight ?
Still, you may have a habit of putting words in peoples mouths and jumping to conclusions.
I never called you racist, but racism is collectively judging a group of people based on their [race] as being better or worse than other people. You on the other hand may collectively judge groups of people based on their [seniority list] as being better or worse than other people. There is a correlation here, but I'll leave it to you to draw your own conclusions Eagle.
Eagle, I agree with George Patton who said that "If everyone is thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking." At least we have this going for us?
#2958
Banned
Joined APC: Jun 2008
Posts: 8,350
Grey's Anatomy is boring tonight:
The Third Listers are saying they are tired of this East / West feces and I don't blame them, just want it to be over with. Then this eagle boy is up in the Third Lister's faces. Something tells me eagle boy will not be so tough face to face.
Scandal is coming on, later.
The Third Listers are saying they are tired of this East / West feces and I don't blame them, just want it to be over with. Then this eagle boy is up in the Third Lister's faces. Something tells me eagle boy will not be so tough face to face.
Scandal is coming on, later.
Obviously you're hoping to instigate a war between me and third listers. I have no problem with them, just one of them trying to B.S. his way out of admitting what he did.
My, my such hostility and rage. Bang your head against the wall a few times and relieve some stress. I think you'll feel better.
#2959
Banned
Joined APC: Jun 2008
Posts: 8,350
If you want to ignore the intent behind what that Third-List pilot was saying than, yes, you are technically correct and he was wrong. However, I don't speak for anyone on this forum, and no one on this forum speaks for me.
Still, you may have a habit of putting words in peoples mouths and jumping to conclusions.
I never called you racist, but racism is collectively judging a group of people based on their [race] as being better or worse than other people. You on the other hand may collectively judge groups of people based on their [seniority list] as being better or worse than other people. There is a correlation here, but I'll leave it to you to draw your own conclusions Eagle.
Eagle, I agree with George Patton who said that "If everyone is thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking." At least we have this going for us?
Still, you may have a habit of putting words in peoples mouths and jumping to conclusions.
I never called you racist, but racism is collectively judging a group of people based on their [race] as being better or worse than other people. You on the other hand may collectively judge groups of people based on their [seniority list] as being better or worse than other people. There is a correlation here, but I'll leave it to you to draw your own conclusions Eagle.
Eagle, I agree with George Patton who said that "If everyone is thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking." At least we have this going for us?
#2960
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2011
Position: A320 Capt
Posts: 5,299
The US seniority lists are complex. Lots of different dynamics.
If your company based you in Paris for a while, does that make you French? Are the west furloughed that went east now east pilots?
Glad to see someone missed me sewerpipedriver! Bought a house and sold one, so little time for this place.
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