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Old 01-14-2014, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by cactiboss
Just found that out. Things that make you go hmmmmmmm.....
Well, Parker and APA are now chums and Parker wants as fast a resolution to the contract/seniority issues as possible to get this carrier from 3 into 1, so APA is dancing as fast as they can for him.
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Well, Parker and APA are now chums and Parker wants as fast a resolution to the contract/seniority issues as possible to get this carrier from 3 into 1, so APA is dancing as fast as they can for him.
https://public.alliedpilots.org/apa/...-Petition.aspx

APA FILES SINGLE-CARRIER PETITION: Today, the APA leadership and general counsel filed a petition for single-carrier/single-transportation-system status with the National Mediation Board (NMB). This filing is done to determine the representative body for the pilots of the new American Airlines as we proceed with upcoming joint collective bargaining agreement negotiations and the seniority integration process.

The NMB will conduct an investigation to determine if American Airlines and US Airways should be considered a single carrier for transportation purposes and if an election for representation should be considered. Other unions may intervene in the election if they provide an adequate "showing of interest."

Your leadership anticipates that APA will become the representative organization for the combined pilot group. The NMB will likely render its decision within the next six months.

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Old 01-15-2014, 08:44 AM
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This WAS expected....And??
Read the MOU. It has a timeline baked in.
How does this surprise you??
You westies should consider reading that document sometime. Taking your handlers word has done NOTHING for you so far...
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Old 01-15-2014, 05:16 PM
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This WAS expected....And??
Read the MOU. It has a timeline baked in.
How does this surprise you??
You westies should consider reading that document sometime. Taking your handlers word has done NOTHING for you so far...
The APA has said over and over that they support the Nic 110%, will deny USAPA any representation immediately at single carrier, and will establish West Merger Committee status at single carrier.... The APA is in love with Ferggie and Koontz.. It's only a matter of time!

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Old 01-15-2014, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by LittleBoyBlew
This WAS expected....And??
Read the MOU. It has a timeline baked in.
How does this surprise you??
You westies should consider reading that document sometime. Taking your handlers word has done NOTHING for you so far...
You seem to mistake joy for surprise. I want usapa GONE DEAD BURIED!! Going to get just that in 14.

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Old 01-15-2014, 06:26 PM
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The APA has said over and over that they support the Nic 110%, will deny USAPA any representation immediately at single carrier, and will establish West Merger Committee status at single carrier.... The APA is in love with Ferggie and Koontz.. It's only a matter of time!

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Old 01-16-2014, 06:40 AM
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This WAS expected....And??
Read the MOU. It has a timeline baked in.
So why is usapa fighting it? Oh silly me, the east pilots never live up to their agreements.
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Old 01-16-2014, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by PurpleTurtle
The APA has said over and over that they support the Nic 110%, will deny USAPA any representation immediately at single carrier, and will establish West Merger Committee status at single carrier.... The APA is in love with Ferggie and Koontz.. It's only a matter of time!

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I think that's a hysterical Usapian exaggeration. From what I've heard, they preferred to step aside and let whatever process that supposed to resolve that, resolve it. I'm sure the motive was self-interest though and minimizing any liability.
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Old 01-16-2014, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by cactiboss
So why is usapa fighting it? Oh silly me, the east pilots never live up to their agreements.
I have no idea since it's required to be requested but I'd guess that it has do with Silver's dicta and the AOL lie about it. An attempt at an addition protection in the SLI.
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Old 01-16-2014, 03:16 PM
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I have no idea since it's required to be requested but Ij'd guess that it has do with Silver's dicta and the AOL lie about it. An attempt at an addition protection in the SLI.
I guess the apa doesn't think the "dicta" is a lie.


Petition for Single-Carrier Status

Your APA leadership has received several inquiries from members regarding our filing of a petition for single-carrier status with the National Mediation Board (NMB) earlier this week. Some members have also read the update that the US Airline Pilots Association (USAPA) issued yesterday, which characterized the filing as "premature" and asserted that a single-carrier filing would be timely only after an integrated seniority list is completed.
To be clear, APA's filing complies with the Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) mutually agreed to by American Airlines, US Airways, APA and USAPA. The MOU stipulates the following:

APA shall file a single carrier petition with the NMB as soon as practicable after the Effective Date, when APA determines that the facts support the legal requirements for the filing of a petition but in no event later than four months after the Effective Date.
The term "Effective Date" refers to the date of the merger between American Airlines and US Airways, which was Dec. 9, 2013.
Consistent with that provision of the MOU and based on information American Airlines filed with the NMB last week, APA determined that the facts support the legal requirements for the filing of a petition. The completion of an integrated seniority list is not a mandatory pre-condition for a single-carrier finding by the NMB. Actually, in the vast majority of significant airline mergers, the NMB has found a single carrier before the completion of seniority integration.

The USAPA update also asserted that "the McCaskill-Bond Amendment contemplates the continued independent representation of each pre-merger bargaining unit throughout the process of seniority integration." This statement suggests that USAPA would continue to serve in its current capacity even after the NMB certifies a single bargaining representative. However, as Judge Silver notes in her Jan. 10 decision in the Addington case, "when USAPA is no longer the certified representative, it must immediately stop participating in the seniority integration."

The APA Seniority Integration Committee will continue to pursue the negotiation of a seniority integration protocol with USAPA and American Airlines, as required by the MOU. This protocol will establish the rules of engagement for APA and USAPA going forward.

APA will provide updates as appropriate during what will likely be a lengthy and complex seniority integration process.
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