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01-03-2014, 11:32 AM
#2331
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h. US Airways agrees that neither this Memorandum nor the JCBA shall provide a basis for
changing the seniority lists currently in effect at US Airways other than through the process set forth in
this Paragraph 10.
What do you not understand about this paragraph? Holy cow, a child could read and understand this. Seriously.
01-03-2014, 11:36 AM
#2332
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Apparently you also did not proof read the MOU prior to voting for it. The language was very "plane". What exactly was not Disclosed in paragraph 10h, that you feel constitutes a DFR. The MOU was and is seniority neutral. It does not contain the NIC, nor does it contain DOH language. It simply says we do away with all old agreements and start off fresh.
Have you ever asked your AOL leadership why they were so concerned with paragraph 10h, yet did not publicly discuss it. Why would they be so concerned about the MOU, yet recommend a yes vote across the board.
You are not fooling anyone here. You couldn't possibly be so ignorant and naive as to not understand a simple paragraph in the MOU. You simply took your chances on passing the MOU and then immediately claimed you couldn't comprehend the simplistic language in it. Now it's up to Judge Silver to see if she believes you. She just may and you may win the DFR, time will tell.
Have you ever asked your AOL leadership why they were so concerned with paragraph 10h, yet did not publicly discuss it. Why would they be so concerned about the MOU, yet recommend a yes vote across the board.
You are not fooling anyone here. You couldn't possibly be so ignorant and naive as to not understand a simple paragraph in the MOU. You simply took your chances on passing the MOU and then immediately claimed you couldn't comprehend the simplistic language in it. Now it's up to Judge Silver to see if she believes you. She just may and you may win the DFR, time will tell.
I have tried my level best to make this as clear as it can be. Its not up to AOL to disclose as that is a function of this so called union and the union is usapa. The members of usapa have stated that they did not know what 10H meant and the attorney for usapa is on the record as well stating that the mou as a whole is seniority neutral. Now everyone claims that its clear. Can't have it both ways.
Here is a little "legal" hint for you on what is really being reviewed by court. Misrepresentation is a concept in contract law referring to a false statement of fact made by one party to another party, which has the effect of inducing that party into the contract. Now was this the intent of usapa by and thru section 10H of the MOU?
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01-03-2014, 12:18 PM
#2333
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su·per·sede [soo-per-seed]
verb (used with object), su·per·sed·ed, su·per·sed·ing.
to set aside or cause to be set aside as void, useless, or obsolete, usually in favor of something mentioned; make obsolete: They superseded the old statute with a new one.
01-03-2014, 01:08 PM
#2334
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WD at AWA
01-04-2014, 01:50 PM
#2335
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$650 Million lost, Bradford admits to it:
Go to 7 minutes from the end
http://leonidas.cactuspilots.us/West...n_Part_Two.mpg
The MOU are the same rates as the Kirby proposal:
Go to 5:30 from the end.
http://leonidas.cactuspilots.us/West...n_Part_Two.mpg
Was it worth it?
Go to 4:30 from the end.
http://leonidas.cactuspilots.us/West...n_Part_Two.mpg
Go to 7 minutes from the end
http://leonidas.cactuspilots.us/West...n_Part_Two.mpg
The MOU are the same rates as the Kirby proposal:
Go to 5:30 from the end.
http://leonidas.cactuspilots.us/West...n_Part_Two.mpg
Was it worth it?
Go to 4:30 from the end.
http://leonidas.cactuspilots.us/West...n_Part_Two.mpg
01-04-2014, 09:41 PM
#2337
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Most East feel that the money they lost due to a lack of a contract is equatable to the value of seniority that they otherwise would have lost.
It's additionally worth noting that US Airways would have been no where near as profitable without East and West lowering the bar together.
This status quo in part put Airways in a great position to peruse a merger with AA.
It's additionally worth noting that US Airways would have been no where near as profitable without East and West lowering the bar together.
This status quo in part put Airways in a great position to peruse a merger with AA.
Last edited by flybywire44; 01-04-2014 at 09:58 PM.
01-04-2014, 11:55 PM
#2339
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Most East feel that the money they lost due to a lack of a contract is equatable to the value of seniority that they otherwise would have lost.
It's additionally worth noting that US Airways would have been no where near as profitable without East and West lowering the bar together.
This status quo in part put Airways in a great position to peruse a merger with AA.
It's additionally worth noting that US Airways would have been no where near as profitable without East and West lowering the bar together.
This status quo in part put Airways in a great position to peruse a merger with AA.
01-05-2014, 05:18 AM
#2340
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Umm, I don't think flybywire44 is an eastie. Not that that would change your message, which, btw, is completely lost on everyone in this forum. Carry on.
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