R57 relay

Sorry for the slow reply, been busy with family, friends and flying.

I've assumed that you read the MOU. Is that correct? It is basically a 15 page document that replaces the entire US contracts. Plural, as east and west are still under separate ops.

Anyway, the MOU has certain block hour requirements to be maintain and pilot positions. The company has some flexibility to shift flying, but if it honors the contract, it has to maintain certain levels of flying.

As with much on this board, this is conjecture based on rumors. Before the merger was announced, US was going to do a life extension on the 767 fleet and run them until 2017, when the A350s were scheduled to arrive. After the merger announcement I heard they were going to skip that and retire the US 76 fleet by the end of 2014. When the merger got delayed, the new word was the leases got extended. The aircraft are long in the tooth, the oldest in the US fleet, and kind of small for it's role. My guess is that the new AA would like to replace them.

So, US could retire some 767s and use AA aircraft and pilots on former US routes, but on a limited basis.

I'm interested in what you have to say as a person without a dog in the fight, and an attorney. Sometimes I follow you and sometimes I don't. You see the APA walking over things, but we have a procedure pretty much in place. For them to really roll over us, I think they would have to do that prior to the merger. Now things are pretty much set. I think the AA pilots will come out on top, but that is because the majority of them ARE on top now, by the common measurement. They have the most higher paying positions, and history shows that is what pilots go for, no matter what they say about not wanting to fly glorified red-eyes.

The really interesting thing in this merger is the separate representation of the west pilots. Do they represent what they bring to the merger? Did they step in a pile of steaming ds? I mean, they have no widebodies in PHX. Their junior F/Os were hired in 2005. The MOU is clear about the continuation of separate ops. What does an arbitration panel do with all of that?

cactiboss

Ooooh, u eastholes sure have the west over a barrel, nothing to worry about then.

Use the Nic.

R57 relay

You hope Mr First Officer. That's what YOU bring to the US-AA merger, isn't it? A F/O position. You don't want more than what YOU bring to the merger, do you?

cactiboss

Funny, Nic. Says I can hold 757 captain which amazingly was the position I held date of merger in 2005. So I just want what was STOLEN from me by the east pilots.

FreighterGuyNow

You fly 24% of your block hours on East routes.

Go howl at the moon because oil went from $35 to $100 per and your America West route system was the lowest yielding in the industry.

R57 relay

Funny, USAPA's DOH list says I can hold 757 captain in PHX. But, it's not being used either, in compliance with our AGREEMENT. Give me the name of one east pilot that is flying a 757 based in PHX.

cactiboss

You got it all figured out, the us/Awa merger never happened. The west works for Awa(an airline that doesn't exist) and the east works for usairways, kind of like the west works for a wholly owned and east is main line? That's how you see it isn't it? Tic toc ......

R57 relay

Nope, not at all. We all work for the same company, we just never got an integrated seniority list done. We have a bid coming out soon, think you will put your 757 C/O bid in on it?

How many times have you had to wind that clock?

Irishish

Can we please debate the real issue? Why the heck does USAirways use
C/O for Captain on the bids?

R57 relay

Commanding officer, I guess. Or that's the way they did it on the DC-3.