flyinawa

Thanks a lot, Relay. I guess I should feel lucky to be working with the likes of you "Legacy" USAir types.

crzipilot

Oh and BTW WD since you guys have been pontificating our demise since '07 GFY....

Have a good Christmas, Truly I hope you can spend it with loved ones....

Wiskey Driver

Pontificating whose demise? Usapa? No the company aided in their survival due to the fact that it was financially beneficial for them to do so. No new contract meant no more money for pilots and that was a great thing for management but a very bad thing for us pilots.

In your other thread you asked about disclosures its the law not some made up theory. A union has a duty to its membership to disclose all aspect of any collective agreement that requires a vote. These are commonly done via road shows. The usapa attorney is on video stating that the mou was seniority neutral. This evidence was passed on to the courts and is documented.

You stated that I thought you were stupid and nothing could be further from the truth. I dont think any of you are stupid I think that you make stupid decisions on certain life altering events. I could not in good faith call a fellow pilot stupid and that be all encompassing without putting myself in that category and I KNOW I'm not stupid.

Yes I am spending Christmas with family and wish you a merry christmas.

Start here http://archive.uniondemocracy.org/Le...tm#declaration
I know you guys dont take me serious when I state that some of what usapa has done is criminal. Take the time to read all the material then lets talk.

WD at AWA

R57 relay

No, you shouldn't feel anything about working with us. What you should feel is disdain when AH's like WD run their mouth. Do you think you have any right to look down on me? I've never gotten that vibe from you. I didn't throw that rock, the JA did.

I don't look down upon AWA pilots. I have some good friends there. Thing is, none of you have any room to look down upon me.

Here's a couple of facts. I went to work for the only airline I wanted to work for, Piedmont Airlines. It was a family thing and even after becoming a major airline, ATW's Airline of the Year and being loved by it's customers, it was looked down upon by other airlines. So, I understand when other's are looked down upon. But, despite it's warts, US Air provided a good living for me and my family, and I stand by my offer to compare it to any AWA pilots.

The fact is that America West was the bottom of the barrel for a long time in pay. Do you dispute that? It probably had the greatest concentration of scabs in the US airline industry. I don't blame any of you for going to work for them if it worked for you, but damn it, there is not a single one of you that should be throwing stones.

Wiskey Driver

Hmmm more insults man you are on a roll today dont stop now. According to you i am now a AH . AWA did NOT have the highest concentration of scab workers but something tells me that you knew that already just wanted to make that statement for effect which then makes you the AH now doesn't it?

Wont argue the fact of AWA pay but that was then and when we bought USAir we were at that time until the MOU paid better than east pilots.

I dont so much mind the name calling, do what ever makes you feel better about yourself.

WD at AWA

TXHillCountry

Oh boy!

Many (of us) have thought that the next round of pilot integration at the 'Newest AA' will a bigger circus than Barnum and Bailey time the power of Ten.

Career expectation, bankrupt employee groups, AWA pilots with APA seniority numbers, acquiring/acquired groups, new vs old management groups, negotiations, mediations or arbitrations, APA, USAPA, (ALPA?), do-dah, do- dah...

Bushel basket of buttered popcorn and a case of beer.. might need a delivered pizza to finish.

Thoughts?

CanoePilot

I can't wait for the bumper stickers and "cute" phrases.

two great airlines one great future.

TXHillCountry

I think I still have the goodie bag with that lie on it.

crzipilot

I don't know about the rest of the guys, but it's just sometimes fun keeping these guys in check. Every few months they come out with the new party line from AOL, and try to spread the party line across all the web boards.

It's almost like they have appointed members to go and spread the word. HA. I wouldn't doubt it.... Wonder what their cut of the LLC profits are?

R57 relay

Give me a break about the name calling. What have you called me and my brothers on here? You can be an AH. So can I, Ifly usually stays above the fray. It's a character flaw in me, but at least I can see it.

For about a year out of it's entire existence US had lower rates than AWA. Some. For the 40 or so 75/76s and the A330, they were higher! Plus you should know where LOA 93 came from. It was patterned on YOUR contract, along with jetBlue. A friend of mine spent a month in Tempe with you management. US was looking towards a merger with AWA a long time before it happened. We should have been on the same payrates at the time of the merger, like we are now.

We really should move on. The same stupid arguments come up over and over again. You and cacti make rediculous statements and I go to my files and show you're wrong. Seems like you'd get tired of it. The past is DONE, it doesn't really matter what happened, just what will happen. But, if you want to keep making asinine statements, I'll be here to counter them.

Let's just keep it in this thread, okay. We do okay for a while then slip up and pollute other threads. It drives guys nuts.

Merry Christmas to you and your family. Sincerely.