AOL update
I did answer your question, I said I dont want usapa doing anything for me except dog $hit clean up.
12-20-2013, 06:02 PM
#2162
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Didn't know 3 companies were merging. You miss usapa's latest filing? MB can't be applied retroactive to our merger, usapa's words. For some reason management believes that letting the MB arbitrators pick a list for the usairways pilots is what is going to happen. If what I was told was discussed today is correct, the company hands over the Nic , usapa hands over doh and then we make a case for which list is integrated into american.
Has Doug been drinking again. 
12-20-2013, 06:26 PM
#2163
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Arbitrators do not pick who submits to arbitration. The whole point of arbitration is that participants willingly agree to the terms of arbitration. Arbitrators have no more authority than the participants agree to give them. If arbitrators picked the participants, by definition it would not be possible to ensure all participants would be "willing". Has Doug been drinking again.
Has Doug been drinking again. WD at AWA
12-20-2013, 07:00 PM
#2164
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Their is a continuing dispute about whether the union and the company have been true to the terms of the contract that gave rise to the previous arbitration. None the less, you did not dispute what I said. Participants in an arbitration are willing participants, and the arbitrator has no more authority over the willing participants than what they willingly stipulate.
More importantly, the "meeting" today with the company..... please, please, please tell me the company assumed to itself the privilege to discuss the MOU with a group that isn't a party to it (the newly self-appointed AOL merger committee, that the company invited). Please tell me the company did this. Please.
12-22-2013, 05:50 AM
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12-22-2013, 05:52 AM
#2168
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Be careful what you wish for, just ask cacti and WD. They were really pleased with that crafty dual ratification thing, right up until it bit them in the rear. The law of unintended consequences.
12-22-2013, 07:21 AM
#2169
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Okay with me, my group has the most retirements in the next 3 years, so we can capture that attrition, then yours!
Be careful what you wish for, just ask cacti and WD. They were really pleased with that crafty dual ratification thing, right up until it bit them in the rear. The law of unintended consequences.
Be careful what you wish for, just ask cacti and WD. They were really pleased with that crafty dual ratification thing, right up until it bit them in the rear. The law of unintended consequences.
Could you propose to USAPA to muck up the show in fine style for a few years for us ?
Pretty pleeeeeeease
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