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Old 12-20-2013, 05:30 AM
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I guess you didn't hear about the recalls? Threatening the company over the west with USA today ads? East bpr reps keying the phone while on conference call to block out when west reps speak? How come your transparent union didn't tell you about tomorrow's meeting?
I heard about everything but the phone block. Sure the mean old easties did that.

The union doesn't broadcast every meeting, just as ALPA didn't.
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Old 12-20-2013, 06:37 AM
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Are you saying you didn't get a copy of the MOU before you voted, or are you saying you can't read? Your leaders in Loenidas, LLC knew how to read. .... according to the terms of the MOU. Sincerely, Leonidas, LLC
You are still not getting it. It does not matter one bit on who got copies and who didnt. What matters is that a union has the obligations to disclose and usapa did not do that. Road shows are the common method used in the industry and again usapa said that the mou was neutral on seniority then had items hidden within the document that were contrary to that statement. Now one could claim fraud here but I will leave that to the judge and how she sees this action.

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Old 12-20-2013, 08:03 AM
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You are still not getting it. It does not matter one bit on who got copies and who didnt. What matters is that a union has the obligations to disclose and usapa did not do that. Road shows are the common method used in the industry and again usapa said that the mou was neutral on seniority then had items hidden within the document that were contrary to that statement. Now one could claim fraud here but I will leave that to the judge and how she sees this action.

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If your claim is that USAPA gave you the MOU to read, that Leonidas LLC recommended you vote for said MOU if you wanted to see a merger with AA "according to the terms of the MOU", but that USAPA then verbalized something different than the terms of the MOU you read, and you still voted 98% for the MOU, then I doubt you are smart enough to know that your claim before Judge Silver never even stated that USAPA told you lies.

Have you ever read a prospectus before investing?
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Old 12-20-2013, 09:38 AM
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Hey look, usapa won't be showing up to sli meeting.

Merger Committee Update

On Thursday, December 19, in compliance with the MOU direction regarding the Seniority List Integration (SLI) timeline, representatives from your Merger Committee met in Washington with representatives of the APA Seniority Integration Committee. We discussed language for the Protocol Agreement which will govern major aspects of the upcoming SLI process. This is the 1st phase of the Seniority Integration process as defined in the MOU Timeline.
The exchange was friendly, frank and productive. We will continue to exchange draft language during the holidays and have scheduled additional meeting dates in early January. Your Board was briefed by the Merger Committee earlier this month on our initial draft of the Protocol Agreement at the most recent quarterly meeting in Charlotte, with the understanding they would approve any final language.
Last week the Company proposed a meeting on December 20 with themselves, USAPA, APA, and the Addington II plaintiffs. As you know, the Company, USAPA, and APA are the only parties to the MOU. The plaintiffs in the Addington II litigation are not. A meeting between the Company and the Addington II plaintiffs concerning seniority would be a violation of a number of sections of the MOU as well as the Railway Labor Act. Additionally, the Company has never indicated the intended subject matter of the proposed meeting.
The USAPA Merger Committee will not be attending the meeting, or any other meeting that includes parties other than the exclusive bargaining agents of the two pilot groups and the Company, unless and until there is a requirement from the courts. Our counsel has stated this position to the Company, including the fact that such a meeting would violate USAPA’s status as the certified bargaining representative of all US Airways Pilots.
You may rest assured your Merger Committee is in unanimous agreement that we will endeavor to comply with all aspects of the MOU as it pertains to our SLI timeline. Should the Company not follow the well-defined direction and intent of the MOU, your union will take the appropriate steps under the procedures established by the MOU to stop the violations and steer the process back to the proper course. Attached is a copy of the letter that was sent to the Company yesterday.
The recap of the recent APA board meeting contains the following report:
"The Seniority Integration Committee gave an in-depth briefing in executive session. The board approved a related motion to authorize the committee to enter into protocol and seniority integration negotiations in accordance with the four-party MOU and the McCaskill Bond Act labor protective provisions. The committee is directed to seek a fair and equitable seniority integration based on the AA pilots' pre-merger career expectations that ensures equitable sharing of post-merger progression or decline."
We are encouraged by this report and are hopeful our discussions with the APA Committee will continue to make progress towards fair and equitable seniority integration for all of our pilots.
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Oooohhhh, that will show them.
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Old 12-20-2013, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by cactiboss
Hey look, usapa won't be showing up to sli meeting.



Oooohhhh, that will show them.
They pulled the same crap with the company over the contract negotiations years ago refusing to show up and they got 7yrs of LOA 93 and frankly they should still be under LOA 93. This time they aint the big fish in the pond!

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Old 12-20-2013, 12:07 PM
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They pulled the same crap with the company over the contract negotiations years ago refusing to show up and they got 7yrs of LOA 93 and frankly they should still be under LOA 93. This time they aint the big fish in the pond!

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It's their go to move. I predicted that once por happened Doug Parker would have no reason to appease usapa and the spanking would begin, looks like it took less than a week.
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Old 12-20-2013, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by cactiboss
Hey look, usapa won't be showing up to sli meeting.



Oooohhhh, that will show them.
Hey, look at the report. USAPA and APA met to discuss the protocol agreement.

And then the company sought to divide the pilots.

Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss. BYOV (Bring your own vaseline).
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Old 12-20-2013, 12:25 PM
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Hey, look at the report. USAPA and APA met to discuss the protocol agreement.

And then the company sought to divide the pilots.

Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss. BYOV (Bring your own vaseline).
Tic Toc........
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Old 12-20-2013, 01:37 PM
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Tic Toc........
It will all be over by April, right cacti?
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Old 12-20-2013, 03:12 PM
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It will all be over by April, right cacti?
With the right ruling could be over before then. Btw today the west,apa and company had a very productive meeting. No one seemed to miss usapa.
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