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12-19-2013, 11:24 AM
#2111
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No, that's my opinion and it still stands. The "hijacking" occured years ago when a clever minority in the East ......*sigh*.......devised a method to subvert the Nic by overthrowing the present union (ALPA). We'll have to agree to disagree on that. To tell you the truth, it seems that Parker and the APA may disagree too, so I guess I'm not alone.
Otherwise, why would the West pilots be at the table with seperate representation ?
Otherwise, why would the West pilots be at the table with seperate representation ?
12-19-2013, 11:25 AM
#2112
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12-19-2013, 11:56 AM
#2113
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Hadn't heard this. Well, I'll guess we'll find out.
12-19-2013, 12:00 PM
#2114
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The point is-all of that is irrelevant. USAPA failed at what it tried to achieve, reordering section 22 of the CBA. It was the transition agreement and it's wording that kept us separate and the Nic at bay, and then the merger came along and changed things. This led to the MOU and the alteration of the TA and the nullity of our contracts. The exact same thing could have been achieved without USAPA.
Perhaps we should have the SLI meetings in Pomplona ?
12-19-2013, 12:06 PM
#2115
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Seems like a bit of a strawman argument to me, but if you say so. It IS irrelevant as the ball will keep rolling with or without USAPA. Maybe we'll have more of a clue if the bull shows up tomorrow and if not, what it's up to and whether it's looking for a new china shop to trash.
Perhaps we should have the SLI meetings in Pomplona ?
Perhaps we should have the SLI meetings in Pomplona ?
12-19-2013, 12:33 PM
#2117
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I do. It's very clear in the TA. I don't know what the actual outcome would have been had we not voted USAPA in, nobody does, but I know what was possible.
Those that haven't lived it probably don't really know all that happened. Just like those that haven't lived the Eagle flow through don't know all the detail and probably need to leave it to you guys.
Those that haven't lived it probably don't really know all that happened. Just like those that haven't lived the Eagle flow through don't know all the detail and probably need to leave it to you guys.
12-19-2013, 12:39 PM
#2118
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I do. It's very clear in the TA. I don't know what the actual outcome would have been had we not voted USAPA in, nobody does, but I know what was possible.
Those that haven't lived it probably don't really know all that happened. Just like those that haven't lived the Eagle flow through don't know all the detail and probably need to leave it to you guys.
Those that haven't lived it probably don't really know all that happened. Just like those that haven't lived the Eagle flow through don't know all the detail and probably need to leave it to you guys.
12-19-2013, 12:54 PM
#2119
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First its a terror. Then its a comedy. Now its a meltdown. Even with "USA toad ads". Oh the humanity. Should we cry, scream, laugh, or blubber? Maybe an objective regional pilot will soon chime in to help.
12-19-2013, 12:58 PM
#2120
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I really, really hate to miss out on a great meltdown.
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