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Old 12-18-2013, 05:37 AM
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Very often courts will tell the representing attorney's to expect to receive their written orders shortly. There are cases where judges have asked how the order should be worded indicating which way the court has ruled. Now I am not saying that she has ruled one way or the other only that this is not unusual.

I don't think its really that big a deal to have separate west representation given all thats involved and to me it is far from what I would consider to be fair when taking about honoring an arbitration result.

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I don't think it really that big a deal to have separate west representation given all thats involved and to me it is far from what I would consider to be fair when taking about honoring an arbitration result.

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Are you kidding me? You must be out of your mind, this is a HUGE deal. Everyone knows the east bafoons will shoot themselves in the foot in MB arbitration, so it is a big deal we have our own team to show the arbitrators what this scum has done. Btw, can u imagine the arbitration proceedings? West and apa with logical proposals and then the beasties with Whatever crazy ness they are sure to come up with.
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Are you kidding me? You must be out of your mind, this is a HUGE deal. Everyone knows the east bafoons will shoot themselves in the foot in MB arbitration, so it is a big deal we have our own team to show the arbitrators what this scum has done. Btw, can u imagine the arbitration proceedings? West and apa with logical proposals and then the beasties with Whatever crazy ness they are sure to come up with.
Ok but there is more to this process than showing how one side has acted.

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This is a brand new company, it hasn't existed long enough to ever have stunned before. This new company with the apa's concurrence has decided the west will have a seat at the table wether or not the judge orders it. I know you don't grasp what this means but I think its safe to say you east holes goose is cooked.

P.S Hilarious that usapa hasn't "committed" to showing up, you brainiacs have no clue do you?
Oh really. So now it's a brand new company but when US merged with AWA, it was still really AWA and it's managers. Good to know.

It's the same cast of characters.

A guy that can't spell whether calls someone else a "brainiac." You just can't make this stuff up.

So tell me Cacti, how was your west merger committee elected? Was there a vote? What happened to Mitch Vasin? I know several west guys that don't have faith in Ferguson and wanted Mitch in. How much money do you guys have if you are sued for DFR?
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Originally Posted by Wiskey Driver
Very often courts will tell the representing attorney's to expect to receive their written orders shortly. There are cases where judges have asked how the order should be worded indicating which way the court has ruled. Now I am not saying that she has ruled one way or the other only that this is not unusual.

I don't think its really that big a deal to have separate west representation given all thats involved and to me it is far from what I would consider to be fair when taking about honoring an arbitration result.

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That would make sense and the company could just be reading the tea leaves, but still seems to be jumping the gun.

There have been other groups thinking about filing for separate status, but they were waiting on Judge Silver. They may be too late.

AOL is a LLC. It's amazing to me that a LLC can appoint a merger committee. I would think that even if the west is given separate status they should have a vote for that. Look at Iranapour's email about Vasin. It shows how little attention AOL gives dissenting opinions.
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So tell me Cacti, how was your west merger committee elected? Was there a vote? What happened to Mitch Vasin? I know several west guys that don't have faith in Ferguson and wanted Mitch in. How much money do you guys have if you are sued for DFR?
I'll let you worry about those issues, trying to explain it to you would be fruitless.
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Ok but there is more to this process than showing how one side has acted.

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Yeah, I guess that is why the most experienced west negotiators and the guys that brought you the Nic are in the aol committee
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I'll let you worry about those issues.
No answer I see.
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No answer I see.
Ooooohhh, ya got me!
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Cacti,

Here's the email entered into evidence in Addington II from one of the plantiffs about Mitch.

"I may be wrong here, but Mitch has no authority to represent the West pilot group. As I understand it, it takes only one West pilot to disagree with a redo of the Nic and a DFR will be on the table.

Mitch just can’t stand not having a title and not being in control. The xxxxxxx FPL xxxxxx of the ALPA days are getting antsy!

AC"

He is one of the team that "elected" the west merger committee. The committee that will represent the entire west group in the merger with one of the most powerful pilot unions in the nation. He says Mitch has no authority. As of today, what authority does AOL have? What liability does it have?

Between USAPA and this bunch the APA has to be laughing it's rear off!
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