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11-28-2013, 12:09 PM
#1841
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Posts: 390
The vast majority of AA pilots know very little about the AWA/US debacle and Nic award, other than it's a Class A mess and don't want any part of the blood feud.
US Airways pilots need to get this settled once and for all, done and over with, BEFORE any serious talks on a SLI commence. The APA does not want, nor should they have to, inherit that legal and emotional baggage.
I as an AA pilot, as well as all the AA pilots I know, are going to have very little patience listening to whinging, sob stories, and general BS associated with a AWA/US never-ending fight.
US Airways pilots need to get this settled once and for all, done and over with, BEFORE any serious talks on a SLI commence. The APA does not want, nor should they have to, inherit that legal and emotional baggage.
I as an AA pilot, as well as all the AA pilots I know, are going to have very little patience listening to whinging, sob stories, and general BS associated with a AWA/US never-ending fight.
11-28-2013, 02:06 PM
#1842
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Joined APC: Nov 2011
Position: A320 Capt
Posts: 5,299
The vast majority of AA pilots know very little about the AWA/US debacle and Nic award, other than it's a Class A mess and don't want any part of the blood feud.
US Airways pilots need to get this settled once and for all, done and over with, BEFORE any serious talks on a SLI commence. The APA does not want, nor should they have to, inherit that legal and emotional baggage.
I as an AA pilot, as well as all the AA pilots I know, are going to have very little patience listening to whinging, sob stories, and general BS associated with a AWA/US never-ending fight.
US Airways pilots need to get this settled once and for all, done and over with, BEFORE any serious talks on a SLI commence. The APA does not want, nor should they have to, inherit that legal and emotional baggage.
I as an AA pilot, as well as all the AA pilots I know, are going to have very little patience listening to whinging, sob stories, and general BS associated with a AWA/US never-ending fight.
It's working it way through court. The MOU covers it, but the west isn't happy with what they voted in. We'll see what happens, but count on an appeal from the losing party. There's not much else to do to speed it up.
Was the AA/TW a bit of a sob story by some? Seems that merger produced some federal legislation.
11-28-2013, 02:11 PM
#1843
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Joined APC: Nov 2011
Position: A320 Capt
Posts: 5,299
WD,
Correct, as an AA pilot, we don't have a preference on this Nic deal. We will not be drawn into the middle of this debate, nor offer an opinion on this matter. This matter rests soley between the east and west pilots of USAir. They need to resolve this matter, then from there, we can move onto the next senority list debate.
Happy Thanksgiving to all of us at the new AAL.
Correct, as an AA pilot, we don't have a preference on this Nic deal. We will not be drawn into the middle of this debate, nor offer an opinion on this matter. This matter rests soley between the east and west pilots of USAir. They need to resolve this matter, then from there, we can move onto the next senority list debate.
Happy Thanksgiving to all of us at the new AAL.
11-28-2013, 02:58 PM
#1844
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Yet you voluntarily go to a thread that you know is just that.
It's working it way through court. The MOU covers it, but the west isn't happy with what they voted in. We'll see what happens, but count on an appeal from the losing party. There's not much else to do to speed it up.
Was the AA/TW a bit of a sob story by some? Seems that merger produced some federal legislation.
It's working it way through court. The MOU covers it, but the west isn't happy with what they voted in. We'll see what happens, but count on an appeal from the losing party. There's not much else to do to speed it up.
Was the AA/TW a bit of a sob story by some? Seems that merger produced some federal legislation.
11-28-2013, 05:01 PM
#1846
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Joined APC: Aug 2006
Position: Right of the Left Seat
Posts: 1,339
Justfun, happy thanksgiving to you and family. Please allow me to let you know of some of the things being said by the east with regard to AA pilots on this issue. They are running around telling all who will listen that the APA pilots all are against the NIC award and how much they hate it. I have yet to meet one APA pilot that feels this way. The response that I get most often is just what you have said here today. THANK YOU FOR HELPING TO DISPEL YET ANOTHER EAST LIE.
WD at AWA
WD at AWA
I'm going to raise the BS flag here on your semantics. It is commonly known is that APA pilots do not support NIC, but they also don't support DOH.
Not unlike East and West, APA has their own separate agenda to pursue what APA views as fair and equitable for their association.
There is no reason for APA to participate right now in any SLI talks—less is more for them at the moment.
Word.
11-28-2013, 05:06 PM
#1847
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Joined APC: Jun 2010
Posts: 449
Cacti and WD.
When you have a judicial decision that finally can not be overturned. Why don't you guys simply Shut UP. If you finally win in court and the 9th up holds the lower courts ruling. Then feel free to come here and lambast how bad the east. is. Until that point. You have no more bearing than the wall I'm looking at. It is that simple. Silver has ranted and gone different directions within her court room. BUT when the final writing is done, her one ruling seemed to follow the law.
So until she rules. Why don't you guys cool it. That way your scab calling and what not will have greater effect if you win.
Chill for the weekend Huh? Everyone knows your stance....
Happy Thanksgiving, Hopefully it was a good one.....
When you have a judicial decision that finally can not be overturned. Why don't you guys simply Shut UP. If you finally win in court and the 9th up holds the lower courts ruling. Then feel free to come here and lambast how bad the east. is. Until that point. You have no more bearing than the wall I'm looking at. It is that simple. Silver has ranted and gone different directions within her court room. BUT when the final writing is done, her one ruling seemed to follow the law.
So until she rules. Why don't you guys cool it. That way your scab calling and what not will have greater effect if you win.
Chill for the weekend Huh? Everyone knows your stance....
Happy Thanksgiving, Hopefully it was a good one.....
11-28-2013, 09:00 PM
#1850
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Cacti and WD.
When you have a judicial decision that finally can not be overturned. Why don't you guys simply Shut UP. If you finally win in court and the 9th up holds the lower courts ruling. Then feel free to come here and lambast how bad the east. is. Until that point. You have no more bearing than the wall I'm looking at. It is that simple. Silver has ranted and gone different directions within her court room. BUT when the final writing is done, her one ruling seemed to follow the law.
So until she rules. Why don't you guys cool it. That way your scab calling and what not will have greater effect if you win.
When you have a judicial decision that finally can not be overturned. Why don't you guys simply Shut UP. If you finally win in court and the 9th up holds the lower courts ruling. Then feel free to come here and lambast how bad the east. is. Until that point. You have no more bearing than the wall I'm looking at. It is that simple. Silver has ranted and gone different directions within her court room. BUT when the final writing is done, her one ruling seemed to follow the law.
So until she rules. Why don't you guys cool it. That way your scab calling and what not will have greater effect if you win.
Silver on companies DJ:
An impartial arbitrator’s decision regarding an
appropriate method of seniority integration is powerful evidence of a fair result. Discarding
the Nicolau Award places USAPA on dangerous ground
appropriate method of seniority integration is powerful evidence of a fair result. Discarding
the Nicolau Award places USAPA on dangerous ground
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