cactusmike

FBW: I agree with you that the APA probably would prefer a non Nicolau list for the reasons you stated. I also believe they do not want anything to do with this until the foodfight is over. They also do not want anything to do with a potential DFR suit.

Relay: that denial you talked about by Hogg is far from finished. It is not a grievance, it is a protest and it will be going to arbitration. In fact, because of our contract language, it will go to the top of the arbitration agenda and no USAPA grievance person will be permitted to attend. It's a west protest and there will be zero east involvement. I did not think it had traction but there have been some interesting developments and it definitely is going above the flight ops level to be decided.

The question on the MOU will be settled fairly soon, one way or the other. Should it be termed a system board grievance there are a bunch of us that are ready to file if any system bid after the POR does not include west pilots. No POR, no grievance, of course.

R57 relay

Wasn't my question. Answer it.

R57 relay

Knock yourself out, what's another loss?

What's your basis on the grievance? Even if the TA didn't go poof with the MOU, the company had a year to implement the joint SLI.

cactusmike

I don't know, man, I see the wagon trains a circlin' at Fort USAPA. And there's a lot of Injuns out here in the West. And we want scalps.

R57 relay

You have for a long time, yet you sit alone in your Teepees.

As I told cacti, you guys have a long history of misreading the smoke signals.

PS-I didn't hit the enter key on my revised question above.

R57 relay

Is it Maxwell Smart and "Missed it by that much!"? or the old redneck saying "Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then!"?

cactusmike

I don't believe that we sit alone in our tepees. We have had a lot of support from a lot of different angles. And who has lost at every legal turn so far this year? You should be happy that we are coming to the end of this, I know I am. And I don't count on anything, I just let things happen as they will.

I am not at liberty to say what the strategy is going into the arbitration. I am not one of the group directly involved with the protes, although I have spoken to one of the ones who is. It's at least viable to take to arbitration, certainy more viable than the repeated protests to Kashner on the SnapBack and 3% grievance or the pension fund drain hole of legal fees.

R57 relay

Has there been a legal decision this year? Last one I remember is when Judge Silver said we didn't have to use the Nic. You guys seem to count your chickens before they are hatched, and file premature lawsuits.

I always thought you guys had a good case until the merger and MOU, where it appears to me that we all agreed to forget the past and move ahead. No DOH, No Nic. But hey, if my guess is as good as my stock picks and first wife pick, you guys are golden!

cactiboss

You are delusional. Silver gave you some rope on the DJ because symanski lied (a pattern with the east) and told her they were going to consider the Nic. Now in this trial she told symanski in open court that had she known usapa wouldn't consider the Nic, that trial would have had a different result. Btw it's right in the transcripts.

cactusmike

Hah, we have that in common.

Should have said legal maneuverings, not decisions.

Well, like I said, I am comfortable with what's going down, but I am not, in the words of our USAPA leaders, "supremely confident". Somebody at some point soon will put an end to this and we will finally move on.