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Old 09-20-2013, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by thruthemurk
Oh, As an outside observer it is amazing how much animosity I feel towards the lack of any professional integrity you display.
Well, admitting you have a problem is the first step to recovery.

Since you are on the outside, how about sharing what you really know about our situation. Tell us about our transition agreement and how that set this mess up. Tell us about the MOU and how the west pilots are dealing with it. You have the floor, show you aren't ignorant of the facts.

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Old 09-20-2013, 08:26 AM
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Who is really benefiting from 10 years of bankruptcy wages. Just because the Ta allows it.... Good luck being the largest airline.
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Old 09-20-2013, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Gallifrey
Who is really benefiting from 10 years of bankruptcy wages. Just because the Ta allows it.... Good luck being the largest airline.
Nobody, but obviously the majority on both sides want it. If we end up being the largest airline, that will take care of this mess.

Someone comes on here and questions my integrity they are going to get it back.

You want something different? Do something about it. Start a card drive.
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Old 09-20-2013, 08:45 AM
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Ridiculous.
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Old 09-20-2013, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Gallifrey
Ridiculous.
What's ridiculous?
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Old 09-20-2013, 04:35 PM
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The transition agreement would not be a factor if you had not shirked out of your agreement to binding arbitration. Everyone knows that that is the original crime.

All of this other ridiculous shenanigans stems from the fact that you couldn't make a deal, you AGREED to binding arbitration and then broke your agreement.

No honor.
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Old 09-20-2013, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by thruthemurk
The transition agreement would not be a factor if you had not shirked out of your agreement to binding arbitration. Everyone knows that that is the original crime.

All of this other ridiculous shenanigans stems from the fact that you couldn't make a deal, you AGREED to binding arbitration and then broke your agreement.

No honor.
When, if ever, is "binding" not binding?
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Old 09-21-2013, 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by justjack
When, if ever, is "binding" not binding?
Depends on what your definition of the word "is" is.
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Old 09-21-2013, 06:31 AM
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The MOU is not in place until the merger is completed, therefore west pilots would not be able to participate in an east bid under the premise of a JCBA being in effect until after that date.

USAPA has argued that this falls under a system arbitration grievance. You can be sure that the first east bid after the effective date that does not include the west will be grieved, at least by me. I will be happy to test those waters. And if my grievance is not put forth by the union, like Parella did with so many west grievances, then that's more DFR fodder.
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Old 09-21-2013, 06:48 AM
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Relay the names I am seeing here are not names I recognize as west pilots. Now we know for sure that one is not based on his/her stating that they were an outsider and you attacked for that.

The very best statement I have ever seen was that where the person said the east committed "the original crime". Now but for that fact we would not be here in this position today. 7 years of the epic failure of the east usapa experiment and you still feel justified in you actions. Now I know you have said over and over how you do not support but in reality you do the exact opposite. Like usapa you look for excuses and use extremely weak arguments to justify your position.

The west is guilty of nothing. We came and played by the rules that were in place at the time. The east controlled much of this thing from the very start then tried very early on deceive us by using an invalid list with names of pilots retired and even deceased in an effort to gain more slots.

The outside world now knows what the east has done and many are appalled by your actions.

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