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Old 07-22-2013, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by cactiboss
We can now see the damage that usapa has caused. Mind you I'm not saying we will win I am saying Silver can compare the Nic vs separate ops.
That's not the question, read the latest from Silver and what she distilled it down to: Did USAPA fail it's duty of fair representation but not mandating the Mic in the MOU.

I will agree with you about making any predictions about Judge Silver.
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Old 07-22-2013, 05:16 PM
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The point is that you made an agreement then went back on that agreement and have convinced yourselves that it was the noble thing to do. When you say " I will do this and honor the outcome" then you don't that makes you a LAIR. When you put together an organization to bring harm to the very group that keep you employed after your company failed, that makes you a low life thief. Not clear on any of this? Go back and read it again until it sinks in.

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We are still living up to what we all agreed to-the TA. It was never completed
and we all agreed to amend it. Now you guys want to go back on the agreement, just as USAPA tried, and was unsuccessful at.

Same thing.
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Old 07-22-2013, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by R57 relay
That's not the question, read the latest from Silver and what she distilled it down to: Did USAPA fail it's duty of fair representation but not mandating the Mic in the MOU.

I will agree with you about making any predictions about Judge Silver.
What are the two lists that are possible after she rules? That is the crux of the matter. It's either the Nic. As required by the TA or any other list usapa desires. So when she looks if it was permissible to not include the Nic as required she will compare them to arrive at her decision.
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Old 07-22-2013, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by cactiboss
"THE COURT: the Nicolau award is fair"

"THE COURT: Abandoning the Nicolau award puts usapa on dangerous ground"

MR. SZYMANSKI: Changes in the date-of-hire proposal, not changes in the Nicolau proposal.

THE COURT: Well, you never said that. If you had said that in open Court, then we would have had a hearing at that time because the issue was what I made quite clear is that you had to go forward. USAPA had to go forward and with an open mind and that the Nicolau Award was not irrelevant. It was to be considered.




The court: I said it didn't have to be the Nicolau Award!
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Old 07-22-2013, 05:43 PM
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The court: I said it didn't have to be the Nicolau Award!
So what list has usapa negotiated with management to place in our contract? Oh wait usapa can just make a list up and show up with it at MB. On the other hand the nicolau sits in the TA at this very moment.
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Old 07-22-2013, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by R57 relay
We are still living up to what we all agreed to-the TA. It was never completed
and we all agreed to amend it. Now you guys want to go back on the agreement, just as USAPA tried, and was unsuccessful at.

Same thing.
Like I said, convinced yourselves that it was the noble thing to do.

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Old 07-23-2013, 04:35 AM
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Like I said, convinced yourselves that it was the noble thing to do.

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No, that would be you guys with your "Army." You fail to acknowledge that the TA allowed what happened.
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Originally Posted by cactiboss
So what list has usapa negotiated with management to place in our contract? Oh wait usapa can just make a list up and show up with it at MB. On the other hand the nicolau sits in the TA at this very moment.

Read the MOU instead of just chewing on the cover.
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Whats happening on sep 24th?
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Old 07-23-2013, 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by R57 relay
No, that would be you guys with your "Army." You fail to acknowledge that the TA allowed what happened.
Just keep telling yourself this was about honoring the TA. The one thing everyone in the industry can do is see right through the east's motives. No doubt those actions kept me at lower pay but rest assured it kept yours the same as well which is below mine.

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