flybywire44

Okay so whats the latest update on this East v West Nic Award shenanigans?

Any rumors on when we're going to see a ruling?

80ktsClamp

SilverandSore

No mention of the July 19th ruling...?

cactiboss

The link to the order is not working for some reason, as soon as it is I'll post it. Bottom line the case is now ripe and 1 day trial scheduled for September 24th.

cactiboss

Well here it is. Looks like Judge Silver "gets it"

http://leonidas.cactuspilots.us/West...22%20Order.pdf

GQpilot

Like you said, it's ripe. I'm sure the hard liners on the east will just brush it off by saying they'll just appeal to the 9th. It's already ripe though and by the time any appeal could come around it will be so ripe it will be a rotting pool of liquid. Their biggest tool for delay was ripeness and now it's gone. Don't underestimate the FOCrs though, if it's one thing they're good at it's finding a way to $@?! stuff up.

G

Wiskey Driver

Late yesterday afternoon, Judge Roslyn Silver issued a comprehensive order that on balance is favorable to the West Pilots. We will comment in greater detail soon, but here is a summary. You can download and read the order here.

To begin, Judge Silver denied USAPA's motion to dismiss and held that the case is now ripe for adjudication. Ripeness has eluded the West Pilots so far, but now our wait is over. We will have our day in court, our trial is scheduled to start September 24th, 2013. On that day USAPA can explain how a labor union is free to abandon the result of an arbitration when the majority does not approve of the result, yet still be in compliance with their Duty to Fairly Represent the West. USAPA has desperately avoided having to answer this question for nearly six years, but now there is no more delay.

Also in yesterday’s order, US Airways’ motion to dismiss our complaint was granted. In addition, Judge Silver denied AMR’s request to join this litigation and she denied bringing the Allied Pilots Association in as well. While we are disappointed in a sense that US Airways was dismissed, the reality is that the East-controlled USAPA is the root cause of the troubles for the West.

The sooner we get to a judicial conclusion, the better for all – West, East, and even American pilots. This will be the world’s largest airline and with it, the combined AMR-AWA-USA pilot group will be in a position to join our UAL-CAL and DAL-NWA brothers and sisters in regaining what has been lost by pilots since 9/11.

Finally, we want to once again thank all those who have contributed to this legal cause. Leonidas was formed nearly six years ago with the stated objective of preserving the West Pilots’ seniority rights. Nobody gave the West a chance to stand up against the East-controlled USAPA. Well, the West did stand up, and three million dollars in legal fees later – we’re still here.

Have a great weekend.

Sincerely,

Leonidas, LLC

WD at AWA

R57 relay

You are a hoot. Over a year ago you said Silver "got it" because she said she was going to rule on the original DJ. When she didn't rule they way you thought she "didn't get it." You were baffeled by here last hearing(as was everyone), but now you think she again "has it."

I wouldn't put any money on what this Judge might decide.

R57 relay

That's funny. Who is &^%% stuff up?

A leading member of AOL helped negotiate the MOU. Their attorneys probably helped him craft it. You were all told that it didn't include the Nic, yet you voted 97% for it, only to turn around and claim that it was illegal because it didn't include the Nic. Isn't that exactly what you have been claiming the east did with the Nic, we back on what was agreed upon?

Integrity in action, again.

cactiboss

I meant in the order she describes the situation perfectly, she did the same thing in the company DJ. She does baffle me because at the hearing she seemed completely off the reservation and yet in the order she writes as if understanding what is going on. I was shocked she didn't throw out the case because of the 9th's"bad ruling" she felt constrained by.