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Old 06-01-2013, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Wiskey Driver
Yeah I know the truth hurts relay? Keep that hope alive but always remember NO IMPLEMENTED AIRLINE ARBITRATION HAS EVER BEEN OVERTURNED OR SET ASIDE. Keep hope alive though

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Fixed it for ya there WD.

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Old 06-01-2013, 12:13 PM
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The east hiring proves the viability of the east's operation.



Because the east's viable and competitive operation needs more pilots



Because the west's non-viable and non-competitive operation is shrinking and needs fewer pilots.

The Nic's implementation wouldn't have changed the non-viable operations of Phoenix and Las Vegas. It would just have limited the pain to mostly east pilots.

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So we are a wholly owned part of usairways ? Should we even be integrated with American? Maybe behind the eagle pilots? Like I said, you have absolutely no moral compass and would make a fine eastie.
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Old 06-01-2013, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by R57 relay
A lot of other pilots that don't have a dog in the fight have chimed in. Not one of them ever answered my question about what they would do in my shoes either. I don't like that many of them are uninformed and run their mouths, but it's not my board or my place to tell them to run along. I counter them with facts, something you are unable to do.

The DAL pilot on my jumpseat called your group "the worst bunch of scumbags in the industry." I swear, and I took up for you.

If anyone were to even believe that, the question begs asking why???

If we start out with the Nic, and we may, I will be here to tell you that you were right. Do I need to bring out all of your(west)other predictions that were dead wrong?
Being right in this mess is for gloating and I don't need that. What I need is for the courts to say what binding arbitration is or is not. If it can just be set aside simply due to no other reason than one side not liking it thus creating an entity to abrogate getting around it then I think we will have much larger problems.

Now with regard to the many on my jumpseats weekly they have very little respect for the east. I guess its all about getting that ride to and from work huh?

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Old 06-01-2013, 12:20 PM
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Fixed it for ya there WD.

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You fixed nothing Carl as the history is as clear as crystal. Think that with which you want to think and believe that with which you want to believe but make no mistake, that list will be used or some entity will pay us.

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Old 06-01-2013, 12:22 PM
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So the two east pilots in front and behind me is my imagination? Lol. I know you guys being called "crazy", "deceitful", "liars", etc makes you very proud. Why don't you tell the forum how your dirt bag union ended its relationship with Seeham? Btw Seeham got the 9th to issue a "bad" ruling so he did have some value, delay.
Actually, I've got concerns about you and WD being the liars here. I came here quite a while ago to read and learn about this situation. As always, there are truthful people, and liars. Look what you and WD just got through saying:

1. At the time of the merger, AWA was coming off its most profitable year ever. But the 10-K for that year shows AWA lost over 80 million dollars. Your response...radio silence.

2. George Nicolau stated that USAirways had only days before liquidation. But I've googled that and can't find any reference to him saying that. R57 Relay also questioned you and asked for the reference. Your response...radio silence.

People are wary of those who make things up. If you do that in court, you're going to get thumped badly.

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Old 06-01-2013, 12:24 PM
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Cacti , read very slowly. YOU ARE WRONG. You are one of those people that hears something and if it fits what you want to hear, you take it as gospel. You ignore the facts of the world around you.

I ignore the 2 of 3 east upgrades because it is not true. After the east got the top 517 and then Nic stapled the former furloughed, the rest of us are pretty much slotted 1 for 1.25. You show me how that could ever equate to the east getting 2 out of 3 upgrades.

I haven't read the UAL/CAL transcripts, but if what a west friend told me yesterday is true then what is being said is at best a stretch, most likely an outright lie because someone is being forced to eat his words.
OMG you are such a liar. Nic made that list 2 to 1 in east favor. Yes the furloughs were stapled as they should have been. They brought nothing to the merger and had no expectation of ever returning to usair considering the shape they were in prior to our bailing them out.

Please stop while you are ahead.

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Old 06-01-2013, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by cactiboss
So we are a wholly owned part of usairways ?
You're one corporate entity, and two separate flight operations.

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Should we even be integrated with American?
Of course you should.

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Maybe behind the eagle pilots?
Uh, no.

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Like I said, you have absolutely no moral compass and would make a fine eastie.
Now that's just your martyrdom complex showing again.

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Old 06-01-2013, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Wiskey Driver
You fixed nothing Carl as the history is as clear as crystal. Think that with which you want to think and believe that with which you want to believe but make no mistake, that list will be used or some entity will pay us.

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You might well be right about that. Some entity might be ordered to pay you. But if that entity no longer exists, collecting might be difficult.

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Old 06-01-2013, 01:58 PM
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Just another outsider here that has been following this for some time but when is the next time someone with an opinion that "actually counts' i.e. Judge Silver will be hearing from both sides?

Not that all the back and forth isn't entertaining and helps me kill time on the road but being as how this issue will not be solved in this forum I was wondering when the next court date was?

Carry on.....
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So the two east pilots in front and behind me is my imagination? Lol. I know you guys being called "crazy", "deceitful", "liars", etc makes you very proud. Why don't you tell the forum how your dirt bag union ended its relationship with Seeham? Btw Seeham got the 9th to issue a "bad" ruling so he did have some value, delay.
I have shown you the math, don't you remember? Do I really need to do it again?
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