cactiboss

Good thing. They already have a amr/u date of hire list circulating in the east cockpits.

eaglefly

Well, not worried about that. Not sure how the east/west resolution will occur relative to an AA merger (or when), but there won't be any USAPA hijackings in the future. A nice fence would negate that anyway, i.e., those on the east who MIGHT be advocating any such hijacking fenced in to the current U East fleet and domiciles for 5-7 years. THAT has a strong probability.

Anyone there who's intoxicated by the thought of east guys going straight to all the system captain seats or new widebody F/O slots via DOH has dementia. No need to get worked up about it at this point anyway.

cactiboss

I know, but it shows you who you are dealing with. BTW they removed the west pilot's from the list, nice guys huh?

100indefinite

Prove it..I call BS! I've yet to see it..Stop inciting hate!

flyinawa

Third lister Eastie called one of my AA buddies to tell him "where he was on the list". The list exists.

crzipilot

Prolly put out by the west. HAHAH....haven't seen such a list on the line.... Unlike a few other groups, I haven't heard anyone foaming at the mouth to go to all the system wide capt seats either.....don't think it's would even be expected unlike others would expect...

eaglefly

Reports of AA pilots encountering both easties and westies in their travels who voice their displeasure at the APA/U agreement. West seems to center on "not messing up their work rules" and east just about everything. Again, too premature to get in a twist over a merge yet to occur IMHO.

If there is a DOH list adopted by the east, it's their fantasy list only. Of course, the easties are known for inflicting torture on themselves for no benefit, so it wouldn't surprise me if there was a DFL (DOH Fantasy List).

R57 relay

If you have followed the various web boards you have seen mostly west pilots even talking about this merger, and complaining about the contract. I saw one say that it was "losing west support", as if any were needed. I have heard very little about it on the east, more of a "let's see if it really happens" attitude. I have not seen, or heard of a DOH list and only the most delusional east pilots would believe it would have a chance.

The funniest thing I've heard from west pilots is the thought that the east will get "spanked" leaving the west unscathed. At worst, we get the Nic and then a similar type slot with AA, which is what we would have gotten 5 years ago.

LittleBoyBlew

Eagle your previous post are usually well though opinions and partial facts. I've enjoyed reading such. However, as of recent, your opinion has turned sour towards the east US pilots. I caution you not to fall on the arms of the AOL minority crowd and in return isolate the east. It is still to early in the game to choose sides. This process has just begun to unravel. I caution you not to believe the rhetoric spewed by both sides, east and west, and I suggest that you adapt an objective view. Not all that you read here is an accurate assessment of what has transpired in the east/west saga now going on its 6th year. I am an east line pilot and I can tell you that most, if not all, the guys I fly with are somewhat skeptical of this process ever coming to fruition. Having said that, most are cautiously optimistic and hoping that a final resolution to the Nic might materialize if and when a merger does happen. And NO I have yet to see, or hear of any such DOH list. On a side note, the east will retire roughly 60% of its pilots in the next 7 years. Most guys are to old to get worked up about a merger that most will not benefit from.

eaglefly

Yes, I'm sure like everything of this sort, this type of stuff is from the extreme minority. Personally, I think that the Nicolau award will be implemented and then an AA/U arbitration would go forward using McCaskill-Bond, which stipulates "fair and equitable". Of course, that is a subjective concept and if one looks at the mergers of UAL/CAL, DAL/NWA, SWA/AT there are differences in that concept and outcomes. It's unpredicatable to assume how our final seniority merge would look like, suffice it to say that the APA would be the surviving bargaining representative so whatever did come down, there would be no "rope-a-dope" strategy by those who didn't like it.