B757200ER

Not exactly. 150 of the 1300 TWA pilots (out of 2400 total) stapled to the bottom of AA's master list were MD-80/B-717 Captains, all '88 hires. All were furloughed after being stapled, from '04 until '08. Imagine you're a CA at a major and you're stapled below the bottom, new-hire probationary F/E at the combined carrier.

flyinawa

Wait...aren't you one of the East guys who believed a furloughed pilot should be able to come back and be senior to guy who had been an active Captain for more than 10 years? The only machinations I've seen come from USAPA.

LittleBoyBlew

AHH in case YOU missed it... My friend "was a senior 767 F/O JFK". Prior to the AA/TWA merger, he had been at TWA for 13 years....
Better read the FINE print. The devils in the details. Oh and try reading something other than AOL stuff. Your little CULT is about to be enlightened!!
So hows that dfr lawsuit against USAPA working out for ya??
Last I heard TWA pilots are just waiting for the ALPO dfr damage payout proceedings...

LittleBoyBlew

Thanks B. I stand corrected.

flybywire44

Hello All,

We have a huge opportunity to create a worthwhile airline that we can all take a great deal of pride in, but lets not forget about scope in this merger.

America West and East will be acting like children at the table while Daddy APA carves up SLI, but everyone needs to take a holistic approach to Scope as well as SLI.

FliFast

It must be difficult being at American, having your union contract withering away, in bankruptcy, not knowing if a merger will happen and if so how will your life be affected. It must be very stressful.

The good news is that the McCaskill-Bond legislation will help to preserve a fair and honest integration of the pilot groups.

The irony is the legislation was passed to prevent a future rape of a pilot group like what John "Dancing Man" Darrah, Ed "Saks 5th Avenue"White and every APA member did to the TWA pilot group.

Best of luck AA pilots, I've walked in the shoes you made for me, and have been furloughed for 9 years this July.

Ex-TWA

aa73

Disclaimer: I was offered recall at AA a few years ago and bypassed due to my current job as an MD-11 F/O at UPS.

Funny how you left that out. How them shoes treating ya?

Signed, an APA member who was never called, asked, or consulted with on how to hammer out an AA-TWA integration. But yeah, you're right - blame all of us, it sounds good.

"Fun coming out of my ears???" (according to your profile)

FliFast

Nor did I mention that I was on the street for 6 months on unemployment and the first job I got after I was making $24K a year.

The only consoliation is when the 400 furloughs at American start this Sept, I won't be one of them, but all the red tails will...this will be the third time they are given pink slips. You may be smug and comfy with all this AA73, but karma of what goes around, is about to come around.

AA73, my story is not unique to my brethren at TWA, we were done an injustice by you and your pilot group. Your denial of that and the APA's attitude of , "why do we have to even listen to those guys anyways" attitude just shows the fabric of the APA especially when it comes to other pilot groups.

The APA had the opportunity to make an ally out of the TWA pilots and choose not to. they have a chance now to do the same, and we know after they removed TWA members from APA offices they volleyed the first shot of another bitter campaign against former TWA pilots. Now after the announcement of furloughs, we once again will endure the layoffs.

FF

FliFast

I'm sure you kept the letter you wrote of your own free will expressing your disdain for the way the APA has treated us...email it to me....if not then, the fact that you paid regular dues, implies you supported and were fairly represented by the APA...period.

kcpunk

flifast,

Can you let us know where you saw the 400 furloughs start this September or is Sep a random month that you made up?