wiggy

No problem Tomahawk, with liking your company....I would say you're a bit extreme, though....You're proud to drink the AA cool-aid but remember, by definition "to drink cool-aid" means to be unrealistic or slavish...unthinking in loyalty to a certain "brand"...But "brand" in this case is a group of management individuals who think it is appropriate to try to take away from you (pilots) as much as they can possibly get away with in bancruptcy...-that is their "job"....it is a simple equation, -in their view, the less you (pilots) make in compensation and benefits the better it is for that entity you profess to love so much..."American Airlines". -Your "job"is to fly and try to preserve your profession and lifestyle, -not agree whole-heartedly with those whose purpose in bancruptcy is to gut your profession...

The "cool-aid" term originates, of course, with the mass suicide of the Rev. Jim Jones group in Guyana back in 1978. It implies a brainwashed, syncophantic group who are unhealthily compliant...worshipful, with whatever their leadership wants. At least take a balanced view...It appears the vast majority of your fellow pilots disagree with your stance on this issue....that should tell you something...Either you are an insightful, prescient genius of airline economics and are acting on that unbiased knowledge....or...you disregard the very questionable necessity of destroying the benefits of your chosen career to the maximal extent possible, just because "somebody says so"...and that "somebody" happens to have "American Airlines" associated with his name. You give all the impressions that the latter, and not the former is true, Tomahawk. -Any extreme view or favoritism on any side is not only unhealthy, but is likely unrealistic and untrue.

Prior to Parker's offer, I would have been one of those saying that the AA pilots would never in a hundred years agree to merge with US/AW...with that whole labor/SLI mess. But how can it be that labor peace and an actual increase in pay/benefits could be considered viable in bancruptcy? At the very, very least, Tomahawk, it should tell you Horton is going after way more than is necessary.... not because he "loves" American Airlines...-but, simply because he "can".

Tomahawk58

Thanks for the history lesson

wiggy

Yes, a history lesson that should make anyone who is "proud to drink cool-aid" -pause to think...perhaps better choices are made by using the faculty of "reason" rather than "blind faith".

eaglefly

No, he's only interested in what he believes works for HIMSELF. We must remember who we're dealing with here. This is a person that not only has no interest in supporting his fellow pilots, he'd happily sell them out. He's the type of guy who walks through a picket line with a big smile and chest puffed out.

Thankfully, they're a VERY small minority in this profession.

eaglefly

I consider this a ridiculous statement, considering the source.

eaglefly

Well, it WAS 400 pilots less, just like it was 400 million they needed, then 800 million, now 1.5 billion, etc., etc.

Can't trust anything from this source anymore as it changes day-by-day on a whim. No "loyalty, duty and honor" built with that.

eaglefly

Not that you'd learn form it.

lolwut

Parker's plan - keep all the pilots, or keep all the AA pilots? Been pretty quiet as to if the US pilot jobs are secure in this transaction or not. I could see PHL, PHX, and CLT all facing cuts for various reasons if the merger happens. Are these jobs safe or not?

eaglefly

Don't get too worked up. Even if the merger were confirmed tomorrow, it would be 18 months at best to get any symmetry out of it. I'd expect most necessary adjustments to be made separately before any cohesion.

Don't be lured in by the grotesquely biased source here determined to upset the apple cart with disinformation.

MayDaze

I'm assuming you're asking about potentially working for US Airways. It is possible that a new hire could be furloughed later, but Airways attrition would make sure it wasn't for long.

It is very difficult to get hired by Airways right now. You have to be lucky(which there have been some), have connections or have an outstanding resume. In a few years it'll be another story.