eaglefly

Loyalty is earned, Tom. I'll understand if you keep trying to sell this bill of goods though.

Tomahawk58

If loyalty is earned, pray tell what do the West and East guys at US have to show for it. Oh yeah, Mr Parker did meet with them for a week and made the same promises he made with APA. I'm sure someone can produce a written copy.

New kind of loyalty I guess.

Tomahawk58

But you're right Eaglefly, loyalty is earned, but it's also rendered. You did sign on to work at AA. Why didn't you sign on at US from the start?

You bash our AA leadership team, yet heap praise on Mr Parker even though he has promises yet unfulfilled at his own company. I know, because the promises were made to the APA, I am sure Mr Parker will honor every last iota publicly spoken!

eaglefly

This is getting old, Tom. YOU are not who I fly for and I owe you no explanations about anything. I'm sorry if that dents your ego.

I'm neutral on Parker. I'd like to support our current management "team", but again, I have little to work with except the 1113 and Frank Lorenzo's former attorney. If something changes in the near future, perhaps 7200+ AA pilots will change their minds. I realize you're becoming quite panicky as this U merger situation becomes more likely by the day, but if it does happen, it will simply have been our destiny.

Perhaps it's time you stood shoulder to shoulder with your fellow pilots instead of throwing rocks at them from afar ?

aa73

Nope, not willing to give them ANY chance at all. I "gave them a chance" in 2003. They squandered MY money - money that was supposed to save them from BK - on brand new terminals that service our OW partners. They squandered MY money on hundreds of Eagle RJs that are a financial pit. They squandered MY money on millions in management bonuses. All for what? To end up in BK in 2012 and completely sever 70 years worth of bargaining for better lifestyles and pay at the drop of a judge's gavel.

I'm a PILOT who is currently offering my services to the highest bidder. I have no more brand loyalty to anyone anymore. If USAir is willing to give this dying place a shot at reinvigorating AA and trying to make it better while paying us much better than what our "management" team is offering, bring it.

Ahh, the definition of irony: the very one who accuses me of being a lunatic absolutely supports Horton and his team, whose business plan have earned them a top spot on tonight's Blue Collar Comedy rendition of "HERE'S YER SIGN".

Go back to writing letters to the Ft Worth Startlegram about sucking up to management. You two make a cute pair.

viking767

Is Tomahawk58 an AA pilot?

R57 relay

Although I'm not Parkers biggest fan, I wouldn't say he hasn't fulfilled his promises. What he offered is still and the table, it's just that the pilots have decided it's not worth giving up on the seniority fight for what's on the table. He has just taken advantage of the situation we handed him.

As far as him not including us in the initial talks, I kind of don't blame him. Time is of the essence and the previous USAPA leaders had absolutely no rapport with him. As I understand it, USAPA is now involved in the process and Parker told USAPA and APA that he didn't care how things were worked out, as long as the total cost stayed in the range of the term sheet.

iFlyer

Just to be clear - Tomahawk is NOT a line pilot at American

Tomahawk58

Wow, I'm glad you know what I do

jayme

We all know what you do on this forum. You spread management propaganda. Nobody really knows who is paying your salary, but it's not too hard to guess.

What we do know, is that you aren't a pilot, as you have claimed. That is against the terms of service of this web board, and for that you should be banned.

But honestly, since your position is indefensible, and since aa73 and Eaglefly are doing a great job rebutting your propaganda, I guess you're harmless enough.

Come to think of it, some guys might actually think you are being ironic.