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05-09-2012, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Tomahawk58

Oh wait, haven't you just described Mr Parker's position. He states publicly that he sees another 1.5-2.0 Billion in cost-savings and revenue increase all the while guaranteeing no furloughs, DAL-Plus payrates, putting a pony in every stable, etc.

Not many here taking him to task for his statement other than myself and a couple of other folks.....Hmmmmm!

Perhaps it's harder to take someone to task if they haven't already stiffed you.....................repeatedly ?

05-09-2012, 09:06 AM

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The even greater irony or maybe it's hypocrisy is the willingness to accept Mr Parker at face value for his public statements even when his own house is divided, while deriding Mr Horton and his new team who's only been in the top job less then 6 months.

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So compare the positions stated with the tenure. Tell us publicly why Mr Parker didn't offer his own team DAL rates 7 years ago? He's certainly been content to take the windfall resulting from theh lack of combined contracts at US. Just what are the current pay rate differences between the West and East guys?

But many of you see him as the future savior of AA.....I'm not buying the hype.

Perhaps one reason you're not buying it is because you refuse to look in the right direction ?

Pay rates and combined pilots aside, the question should be which positions have generated profits and effectively run a competing company within their tenure ?

Not a pretty place to look I know, but we're talking about the future. Combine that reality with our slow, but steady death via the 1113 and I think then you can see why it's presently a no-brainer for the overwhelming majority of AA pilots.

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05-09-2012, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by eaglefly

New team ?

Brundage insinuates he's still apparently behind the scenes as puppet-master and Lorenzo's $1000/hour former attorney is front and center, embraced warmingly by Mr. Horton.

What more do you think most of us need to see or hear ?

Perhaps one reason you're not buying it is because you refuse to look in the right direction ?

Pay rates and combined pilots aside, the question should be which positions have generated profits and effectively run a competing company within their tenure ?

You're right of course, it's not hype if it's coming from Mr Parker. All will be well.

05-10-2012, 02:59 PM

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Why stop at a billion? Wouldn't a press release, "AMR wants to increase revenue by two Billion" be a better bigger positive headline for management? How about, "AMR wants to increase revenue by 1 billion and give a pony to every passenger and employee." Now that would be a good press release.

"AMR wants to increase revenue by 1 billion, switch all energy use to clean alternative power, end world hunger, create world peace and get every man woman and child a pony." That is what I would "want" to do as CEO of AMR, vote for me.

Exactly. My question is where internationally they think they can wrangle even a billion in revenue increase.

-Europe in the toilet...
-South America? They already own that, so I doubt if they can get enough of an increase to make up for Europe..
-Zero presence in Africa.. (come on in boys... the water's fine. oh, and UAL is pulling out of some of those markets...)..
-Asia? I think their relationship with JAL would put the clamps on that..
-Antarctica?

05-12-2012, 07:36 AM

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Slight hiccup in their "raise a billion..." efforts:

American Airlines to cut June flights because of pilot shortages | Dallas-Fort Worth Airlines News - Business News for Dallas, Texas - The Dallas Morning News

05-12-2012, 10:02 AM

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but hey, let's go ahead and furlough 400 pilots. Genius!

05-12-2012, 10:18 AM

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but hey, let's go ahead and furlough 400 pilots. Genius!

I understand US has a managed pilot sick program. Let see how that work out for the 9 percent that choose today to screw the company and their fellow pilots, when we're operating under that US system. I know, suddenly everyone will miraculously recover.

Actually, that would be good thing if we get folks back to being professionals that support the company cutting their paycheck.

05-12-2012, 10:24 AM

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AMR is reaping what it's sown. You can't bend over your employees for years then expect them to be on board for the big win when you need them most.

05-12-2012, 10:32 AM

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AMR is reaping what it's sown. You can't bend over your employees for years then expect them to be on board for the big win when you need them most.

That must be it. So all those carriers with rates of pay significantly below AA's current rates in addition to way more productive contracts have much lower rates of pilot sick; what would you attribute the reason for their performance to?