Alaska and JetBlue
12-05-2011, 07:17 AM
#11
AAmerican Way for AA Pay
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You mean Austrailia's national airline QANTAS? Queensland And Northern Territories Aerial Service...no 'u'. And EK has a hub in Dubai (DXB), not Abu Dhabi (AUH); their smallest a/c is an Airbus 330.
12-05-2011, 09:48 AM
#13
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Gloopy, while I respect your opinion, I just don't see it happening. JetBlue is now too big and too successful for anybody to "acquire". That means any future deal is a merger. It takes two willing parties to merge, and B6 has no interest in merging with SWA. It also means big, big financial incentives and premium price to make it happen. AMR can't afford it, and SWA doesn't want to pay it. They want a bargain, and they like to beat up the weak while they are down. SWA would actually have to be play nice and negotiate a mutually agreed upon merger to get B6, oh by the way that includes the pilots. Not the game they like to play.
12-05-2011, 11:06 AM
#14
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So you're saying the JB execs would say "no deal" until a pilot seniority list (and all the other lists, FA, etc) was agreed upon? And that they would scuttle the deal regardless of how good it would be for the shareholders or themselves unless and until the employees were taken care of according to each group's wishes, giving the JB pilots the ability to stop it completely if they didn't like the terms of the list SWA was proposing?
As such, they are very vulnerable should JB management act in the interests of themselves and others and NOT in the primary interests of the pilots (or other employee's for that matter) just like the rest of airline industry management. It's unthinkable to them (actually horrifying) that a merger/acquisition could ever happen and many believe (incorrectly IMO) that JB is and will forever be immune to consolidation.
It's simply a "happy place" one MUST go to if you work for Jet Blue, because the other possibilities are just too frightening. It's commonly referred to as "denial".
12-05-2011, 11:20 AM
#17
No longer cares
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You have to understand there are a few Jet Blue pilots here that are deathly afraid of a merger with ANYONE due to pilot seniority issues. Aren't these pilots on renewable temporary contracts and additionally are unrepresented by any union subject to the RLA ?
As such, they are very vulnerable should JB management act in the interests of themselves and others and NOT in the primary interests of the pilots (or other employee's for that matter) just like the rest of airline industry management. It's unthinkable to them (actually horrifying) that a merger/acquisition could ever happen and many believe (incorrectly IMO) that JB is and will forever be immune to consolidation.
It's simply a "happy place" one MUST go to if you work for Jet Blue, because the other possibilities are just too frightening. It's commonly referred to as "denial".
As such, they are very vulnerable should JB management act in the interests of themselves and others and NOT in the primary interests of the pilots (or other employee's for that matter) just like the rest of airline industry management. It's unthinkable to them (actually horrifying) that a merger/acquisition could ever happen and many believe (incorrectly IMO) that JB is and will forever be immune to consolidation.
It's simply a "happy place" one MUST go to if you work for Jet Blue, because the other possibilities are just too frightening. It's commonly referred to as "denial".
12-05-2011, 01:03 PM
#18
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Eaglefly doesn't work for B6. Over 860 of us aren't living in denial, we are very cognizant of the threat to our livelihoods posed by the PEA structure in a t/e. We are not on temporary contracts, however; they renew in perpetuity unless terminated for just cause. Still not good enough..
12-05-2011, 01:39 PM
#19
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You don't think they have a Abu Dhabi crew base? That would be my choice! I'm not a big fan of Dubai!
It's all sarcasm!
12-05-2011, 01:50 PM
#20
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Correct.
Never said the entire B6 pilot group was in denial, I said a FEW HERE. As for you employment terms, you say they are "not temporary", yet, "RENEW in perpituity" ?
Ummm...........ok, if you say so.
Ummm...........ok, if you say so.
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