Originally Posted by aafurloughee

r u original airtran guy in mco?

Originally Posted by tsquare

I have 5000 hours in the left seat of the 737. I have earned the right to call it the Fluff. It was a term of endearment at DAL.

And FWIW, I am not wishing ill for anybody. Truly. I'm just saying that SWA is not necessarily leading this industry anymore because the playing field is level.. and that it is now gonna cost you.

Originally Posted by eaglefly

Any number of scenarios are possible and I do think it be that Parker IS interested in a merger. It seems to me, regardless of the outcome of the seniority squabble at U (which USAPA/East is likely to lose), making one cohesive carrier out of that mess might not be tenable for Parker. Perhaps he's thought of another plan in between Wild Turkey shooters.

It MAY just be he'd like to dump the East on AA and release the chains of the current disaster he's mired in and one which seems to have no end game. If Nic is implemented, it will be more of an "oil and water" situation then ever, as I can't see pilots on both sides mixing freely in the cockpit. If he could dump the East on AA, that would free up his West side to merge their Airbus fleet with perhaps Jet Blue and regain the Northeast presence lost by unloading the East and starting fresh. AMR MIGHT consider that doable as they'd also get more northeast presence and market share and that seniority meger would probably be more civil. More importantly, AA management would remain in control and then on top of that could still codeshare with U/JB. It wouldn't surprise me to hear that or a similar win/win proposal was floated in the past to AMR and if Parker agrees to refrain from an all out asault on AA, it might be something considered by all parties.

Just one of the many possibilities out there and there are many.

Originally Posted by texaspilot76

In the event of a merger, the Nic is pretty much out the window.

Originally Posted by texaspilot76

In the event of a merger, the Nic is pretty much out the window. All the parties will sit down and start at square one. Even if it did stay, it is in effect with the signing of a joint contract. APA outnumbers USAPA 2-1. USAPA will not be able to get enough votes. APA will get a TA they like and will easily get it voted in due to their superior numbers. USAPA wouldn't have a chance. So either way, the seniority battle will get resolved.

Originally Posted by newKnow

In a sense, isn't the "Nic' award a legally enforceable agreement as well? So, how is it "out the window?"

I thought that as soon as someone starts acting upon it in a way that is detrimental to the West pilots, the case becomes ripe and then it really gets ugly. What did I forget? Where are we with that?

Originally Posted by cactiboss

Last week the company attorney told the chief federal judge in Arizona that the company's position is that the nic. Is binding contractually on all parties. The judge then declined usapa a new trial and will issue a summary judgement instead. Briefs are due jan 15th and rebutles by feb 10th