Stop playing the VICTIM CARD
12-12-2011, 01:02 PM
#21
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No offense taken. I do appreciate your thoughts as well. I totally agree with the need for passion at the very top and
Al Casey and CR Smith. I do think that Gerard was indeed the gracious type and because he staked his tenure as CEO on keeping AA out of CH11, stepping aside for him was in the best interest of the new leader at the top and the company as a whole.
It's a given and everyone here what a complex business the airlines are. Some may think it simple to reduce the running of a solid airline as an easy undertaking but nothing could be further from the truth.
I believe Gerard Arpey typified that passion in the same spirit and vein as Bob Crandall,
It's a given and everyone here what a complex business the airlines are. Some may think it simple to reduce the running of a solid airline as an easy undertaking but nothing could be further from the truth.
As I've said in a previous post, the time for finger pointing is past. If we are to exit CH11 as a stronger, vibrant and competitive air carrier, it will take every employee and leader working together!
I believe Gerard Arpey typified that passion in the same spirit and vein as Bob Crandall,
Gerard Arpey has not been and is not a leader. He was president when AA management force fed the last deal through. He was part and parcel to the Carty's proposed golden parachute. The recent articles applauding Arpey for his exit comments about not wanting bankruptcy are laughable.
How much in cash bonuses did he take over the past many years during the concessionary contract period?
Do you not believe that the last 5-6 years were not a well Orchestrated
manipulation of the books for bonus programs ? Do you not believe that important maintenance and customer services were shortchanged to improve the quarterly bonus schemes? Crandall was a leader who wanted to grow the airline. the same cannot be said of Arpey. He is nothing more than a crisis management hack.
As I've said in a previous post, the time for finger pointing is past. If we are to exit CH11 as a stronger, vibrant and competitive air carrier, it will take every employee and leader working together!
Who are you really ? "The time for finger pointing is past" WHAT...???
Just how delusional do you have to be to realize that the finger pointing will continue until we are made whole.
We have been lied to and robbed. Even the most junior pilot on the property has to work a minimum 4 years to recover what has been lost in the A Plan. Captains with many years of service will never recover their losses. Do you really believe the PBGC (Peanut Butter and Gelly Corp) will be around to payout their modest commitments? If the PBGC does survive, how long will it take to get paid ? I suspect most of us will be dead before that happens.
I suspect the time for finger pointing will be done on judgement day.
JR
12-12-2011, 01:11 PM
#22
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Tramahawk,
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING !
Gerard Arpey has not been and is not a leader. He was president when AA management force fed the last deal through. He was part and parcel to the Carty's proposed golden parachute. The recent articles applauding Arpey for his exit comments about not wanting bankruptcy are laughable.
How much in cash bonuses did he take over the past many years during the concessionary contract period?
Do you not believe that the last 5-6 years were not a well Orchestrated
manipulation of the books for bonus programs ? Do you not believe that important maintenance and customer services were shortchanged to improve the quarterly bonus schemes? Crandall was a leader who wanted to grow the airline. the same cannot be said of Arpey. He is nothing more than a crisis management hack.
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING !
Gerard Arpey has not been and is not a leader. He was president when AA management force fed the last deal through. He was part and parcel to the Carty's proposed golden parachute. The recent articles applauding Arpey for his exit comments about not wanting bankruptcy are laughable.
How much in cash bonuses did he take over the past many years during the concessionary contract period?
Do you not believe that the last 5-6 years were not a well Orchestrated
manipulation of the books for bonus programs ? Do you not believe that important maintenance and customer services were shortchanged to improve the quarterly bonus schemes? Crandall was a leader who wanted to grow the airline. the same cannot be said of Arpey. He is nothing more than a crisis management hack.
Just how delusional do you have to be to realize that the finger pointing will continue until we are made whole.
We have been lied to and robbed. Even the most junior pilot on the property has to work a minimum 4 years to recover what has been lost in the A Plan. Captains with many years of service will never recover their losses. Do you really believe the PBGC (Peanut Butter and Gelly Corp) will be around to payout their modest commitments? If the PBGC does survive, how long will it take to get paid ? I suspect most of us will be dead before that happens.
I suspect the time for finger pointing will be done on judgement day.
JR[/QUOTE]
Just so you know, you're arguing with an AMR management lackey specifically here to blow their bugle on a pilots forum. Try not to get too worked up over it.......you'll never convince him of anything, because he's only here to convinve YOU of something.
12-12-2011, 01:24 PM
#23
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Who are you really ? "The time for finger pointing is past" WHAT...???
Just how delusional do you have to be to realize that the finger pointing will continue until we are made whole.
We have been lied to and robbed. Even the most junior pilot on the property has to work a minimum 4 years to recover what has been lost in the A Plan. Captains with many years of service will never recover their losses. Do you really believe the PBGC (Peanut Butter and Gelly Corp) will be around to payout their modest commitments? If the PBGC does survive, how long will it take to get paid ? I suspect most of us will be dead before that happens.
I suspect the time for finger pointing will be done on judgement day.
JR
Just how delusional do you have to be to realize that the finger pointing will continue until we are made whole.
We have been lied to and robbed. Even the most junior pilot on the property has to work a minimum 4 years to recover what has been lost in the A Plan. Captains with many years of service will never recover their losses. Do you really believe the PBGC (Peanut Butter and Gelly Corp) will be around to payout their modest commitments? If the PBGC does survive, how long will it take to get paid ? I suspect most of us will be dead before that happens.
I suspect the time for finger pointing will be done on judgement day.
JR
EagleFly,
I'm sure your right. I should expect the Kool-Aid from management.
JR
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