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09-28-2024, 09:23 PM
#851
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Originally Posted by tallpilot;[url=tel:3840565
3840565[/url]]The story at recurrent was they planned to lease A319s because they were super cheap, forgot about it during COVID-19 then when the recovery happened 319s cost what wide-bodies used to cost so here we are 2-3 years later still without enough airplanes. So the old rust buckets get heavy checks, new screens and more first class seats.
The point of the mod is to extend the life 5 more years, but it will take 5 years to complete the fleet so some of those airplanes from the 90s will still be here in a decade (2034). Probably beyond because we'll still be waiting for our Max deliveries.
The point of the mod is to extend the life 5 more years, but it will take 5 years to complete the fleet so some of those airplanes from the 90s will still be here in a decade (2034). Probably beyond because we'll still be waiting for our Max deliveries.
09-29-2024, 10:21 AM
#852
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I think we misunderstand each other. It’s obvious, with a newer fleet, we’re not retiring any more aircraft for a while. Your post of incredulity led to my response because it really wasn’t that long ago since we last retired aircraft. That’s all.
09-30-2024, 02:39 AM
#858
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Joined APC: Dec 2007
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Posts: 5,507
Tracked excess retirements for years. Decades ago it averaged 15% per year. When I stopped tracking it years ago it had decreased to approx. 10% (8%?????). But most people are staying to 65 in the last decade so it might be even less than the 10% (8%?) number. Deaths, fired, quit, LTD > 5 years, are part of the number falling off the list.
Over the long term it balances out. Guys retiring early reduce the retirement totals in their planned year. But does anyone remember what 2027's retirements were projected to be, right now, when 2027 rolls around?
Over the long term it balances out. Guys retiring early reduce the retirement totals in their planned year. But does anyone remember what 2027's retirements were projected to be, right now, when 2027 rolls around?
Last edited by Sliceback; 09-30-2024 at 02:44 AM. Reason: Added last paragraph
09-30-2024, 04:49 AM
#859
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Joined APC: Aug 2016
Posts: 295
Tracked excess retirements for years. Decades ago it averaged 15% per year. When I stopped tracking it years ago it had decreased to approx. 10% (8%?????). But most people are staying to 65 in the last decade so it might be even less than the 10% (8%?) number. Deaths, fired, quit, LTD > 5 years, are part of the number falling off the list.
Over the long term it balances out. Guys retiring early reduce the retirement totals in their planned year. But does anyone remember what 2027's retirements were projected to be, right now, when 2027 rolls around?
Over the long term it balances out. Guys retiring early reduce the retirement totals in their planned year. But does anyone remember what 2027's retirements were projected to be, right now, when 2027 rolls around?
As Slice has said before. "When you have enough and had enough, then you retire".
How much is enough?
09-30-2024, 06:58 AM
#860
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Joined APC: Mar 2021
Posts: 1,341
as posted above, base dependent. DFW reserves are the band-aid for the other bases, and are getting used more.
bottom line is if you don't have a Pass All installed and want to fly, especially with a ballot turned on, you can expect to fly.
bottom line is if you don't have a Pass All installed and want to fly, especially with a ballot turned on, you can expect to fly.
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