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Old 06-21-2024, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 8802
It’s even more strange given we just had the December vacancy close on Saturday.

My only non-draconian guess is that they saw how much training capacity was going to be needed to open the 3 new bid statuses and resulting shuffle and saw no room for new hires this fall in the schoolhouse.

Any other massive change in strategy or staffing would surely cause a re-bid.
If that's the case, I wish they would've just ripped off the band aid and opened PHL 737 and BOS Bus at the same time.
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Old 06-21-2024, 02:03 PM
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Different product and market, but it's the same idea here at Spirit. Flights are mostly full and we're still losing money (adjusting for NEO issues).

Definitely rough to hear. I think I'll be stuck at Spirit for a while longer.
If you sell transcon tickets for $25, will the airplane be full?

If you sell transcon tickets for $25, will the airline turn a profit?

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Delta employees also care more about making customers happy and not costing the company unneccesarily. They don't have a half dozen unions protecting employees with crap attitudes. They get it done to boost their profit sharing, we sit around and let the operation burn.
Yes, I agree. Many gate agents do a good job and try to help when/if they can, but the stress and consequences of D0 rolls downhill directly to them, now throw in pax constantly berating them and you don't have a good environment for a quality CS experience.
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Old 06-21-2024, 05:56 PM
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Delta employees also care more about making customers happy and not costing the company unneccesarily. They don't have a half dozen unions protecting employees with crap attitudes. They get it done to boost their profit sharing, we sit around and let the operation burn.
100%. Unbelievable the push back here about SE taxi. CAs act like it’s the end of the world to SE taxi, even though it saves a lot of money. It’s simple to do, but no one does it. And that’s just one little thing that we can do to help make the company more profitable.
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Old 06-22-2024, 05:34 AM
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100%. Unbelievable the push back here about SE taxi. CAs act like it’s the end of the world to SE taxi, even though it saves a lot of money. It’s simple to do, but no one does it. And that’s just one little thing that we can do to help make the company more profitable.
Single engine taxi at AA is for some reason taboo. Only 7% taxi out SE. only 8% taxi in SE. I am one of the few I guess. FOs sometimes grumble but I am trying to do my part. If we had final numbers before the door closed then it would probably be more common.

This place is caustic. Someone is always ****ed off or dragging their feet. We need new leadership from top to bottom. Someone has to clean this place up or it's going to slowly sink. Some say we are too big to fail. I disagree. It won't be quick like the iceberg and the Titanic. It will be slow. Losing market share continuously until we are irrelevant. I will be long gone but for those still here you should be wary. I have been here a long time. The rudder has been missing on the ship since Robert Crandall retired in 1998.
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Old 06-22-2024, 07:08 AM
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You can’t look for every loophole to get out of work, have no consideration for the customer, and then complain about poor profit-sharing and performance.

Somehow there is a lack of understanding among the ranks at AA about where our money comes from, and how to get more of it.

We need a leader at the company AND the union that will make the airline more profitable and reliable, and will ensure those responsible are paid for doing so.
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Old 06-22-2024, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Sheriff Bart
You can’t look for every loophole to get out of work, have no consideration for the customer, and then complain about poor profit-sharing and performance.

Somehow there is a lack of understanding among the ranks at AA about where our money comes from, and how to get more of it.

We need a leader at the company AND the union that will make the airline more profitable and reliable, and will ensure those responsible are paid for doing so.
If our management team and CEO, who made 31 million last year, can't get us moving the right direction, running the APU 20 minutes less and taxiing single engine won't help, as it is a drop in the bucket. They have the tools, resources, and responsibility to run a profitable airline. Our job is to move the passengers from point A to point B safely, while operating under the company's procedures. If they want single engine taxi and less APU usage, I am all for it, as long as it doesn't compromise safety, but at the end of the day, they make the big bucks and it's their job to turn a profit, not ours.
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Old 06-22-2024, 07:43 AM
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If you sell transcon tickets for $25, will the airplane be full?

If you sell transcon tickets for $25, will the airline turn a profit?
Fair point. We do have a much lower CASM than the legacies but we're way underpricing our tickets. We could charge a few dollars more and the pax probably won't even notice.
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Old 06-22-2024, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by BusBoi
Fair point. We do have a much lower CASM than the legacies but we're way underpricing our tickets. We could charge a few dollars more and the pax probably won't even notice.
Judge Young won't like that; we have to protect those price-conscious travelers or the world will end.... 🙄
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Old 06-22-2024, 07:58 AM
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How about waiting for a gate 40 minutes after landing? Blowing everyone's connections, including mine to commute home. Because reasons. Oh yeah, severe clear outside.
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Old 06-22-2024, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by JulesWinfield
If our management team and CEO, who made 31 million last year, can't get us moving the right direction, running the APU 20 minutes less and taxiing single engine won't help, as it is a drop in the bucket. They have the tools, resources, and responsibility to run a profitable airline. Our job is to move the passengers from point A to point B safely, while operating under the company's procedures. If they want single engine taxi and less APU usage, I am all for it, as long as it doesn't compromise safety, but at the end of the day, they make the big bucks and it's their job to turn a profit, not ours.
The normal operating procedure is single engine taxiing. Of course, you don't single engine taxi if it's not safe (manuals say when it's prohibited) or it's not advisable (very short taxi, making a very sharp turn(s) into a unique gate). Just about every other airline single engine taxis more than us, so it isn't just a "safety" issue.
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