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Old 05-29-2024, 08:01 AM
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They reversed that today.

Everybody was focused on Isom and the LUS management, all the while Vasu, who was LAA management, was taking us right down the drain with some next level AArogance. His entire argument for his strategy was essentially that if you build a network large enough, the customer will have no choice but to fly AA, regardless of how they view the overall experience/product.

It's going to be very interesting to see if this is a catlyst for some pretty big heel turns on product, experience, and network.
Interesting they are reversing his policies so quick. Combined with his sudden departure it could be an indication that 2nd Qtr is not as profitable as they thought it would be despite full planes and have finally said enough is enough.
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American’s biggest mistake was eliminating frequent flier miles for business travelers who are required to book through a travel agency. Suddenly many business travelers began status matching on United and Delta and switching carriers. That alone may be responsible for the revenue drop. I expect this policy to be reversed shortly.
Isom said it’s already been reversed.
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Old 05-29-2024, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by 8802
They reversed that today.

Everybody was focused on Isom and the LUS management, all the while Vasu, who was LAA management, was taking us right down the drain with some next level AArogance. His entire argument for his strategy was essentially that if you build a network large enough, the customer will have no choice but to fly AA, regardless of how they view the overall experience/product.

It's going to be very interesting to see if this is a catlyst for some pretty big heel turns on product, experience, and network.
Bingo. Vasu was behind turning AA into Walmart. Make money on volume not quality. But we're too big to fail so we have that going for us which is nice.

Good riddance to another nAAtive American.
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Old 05-29-2024, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by ImSoSuss
Interesting they are reversing his policies so quick. Combined with his sudden departure it could be an indication that 2nd Qtr is not as profitable as they thought it would be despite full planes and have finally said enough is enough.
It's not an "indication." Look at yesterday's guidance. They're 4 points off of DL, 2 off of UA (who reaffirmed), cut their EPS guide, and the TRASM guide is going through the floor.
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Old 05-29-2024, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Margaritaville
Bingo. Vasu was behind turning AA into Walmart. Make money on volume not quality. But we're too big to fail so we have that going for us which is nice.

Good riddance to another nAAtive American.
Vasu was behind the large international expansion we had pre-covid as well. He was the one who really pushed for increased hub and spoke, and showed we were making more money flying small-town USA connections than anywhere else, which is why it made sense to focus on that (the Chic Fil A strategy, focus on what you are good at).

I'm a little foggy on the details, but it looks like he also pushed to cut out the middleman and get corporate to book direct, which seems to have backfired, which looks like why he was let go.

In 20 years working under this management (US Airways and now AA) I've never seen our product this good. Decent business class product/food, lots of connections available from multiple hubs, low downtime of jets (ie quick response from maintenance) and efficient scheduling/ontime performance. Delta even commented on one of their past quarterlies that their competition is rapidly catching up to their reliability.

Our biggest problem on the international front save for LA/SA is we don't have POS at the destinations - ie almost all the folks flying are Americans booking roundtrip travel. United and Delta both have strong international brands where people at the destination are booking flights to the US as well.
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Old 05-29-2024, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Margaritaville
Bingo. Vasu was behind turning AA into Walmart. Make money on volume not quality. But we're too big to fail so we have that going for us which is nice.

Good riddance to another nAAtive American.
Wonder if they'll be any change to the 321T retirement. A better strategy would be refit them to the XLR interior and add to the fleet to add a few more city pairs (MIA-LAX, JFK-MIA) and keep the XLRs over water.

Then you'd already have a premium network stateside that an XLR could slot into when it has to move around the system domestically.
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Wonder if they'll be any change to the 321T retirement. A better strategy would be refit them to the XLR interior and add to the fleet to add a few more city pairs (MIA-LAX, JFK-MIA) and keep the XLRs over water.

Then you'd already have a premium network stateside that an XLR could slot into when it has to move around the system domestically.
321T is not being retired, it’s getting the XLR cabin as you said. I already love the T cabin but the new will be even better
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In 20 years working under this management (US Airways and now AA) I've never seen our product this good. Decent business class product/food, lots of connections available from multiple hubs, low downtime of jets (ie quick response from maintenance) and efficient scheduling/ontime performance. Delta even commented on one of their past quarterlies that their competition is rapidly catching up to their reliability.
That's funny. "We suck less than we've ever sucked before!"

Go buy a few tickets on Delta and tell me what you think of their product compared to ours. We don't have to like them but they are the competition and we're losing the battle for high revenue customers. Instead we're targeting every Joe Sixpack in Abilene or Greensboro or Scranton who might fly somewhere once or twice a year while the high dollar corporate customers and business owners are avoiding us like the plague. Doesn't matter how much you expand your international service if nobody who means a damn to the bottom line wants it. Look what's happened in ORD post merger. United and even Delta with their international codeshares have handed our lunch to us. Until they fix the product AA will always be the #3 airline. But that takes money and treating people well especially the FAs and agents. The culture is rotten and it's going to take a lot to fix
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Originally Posted by Margaritaville
That's funny. "We suck less than we've ever sucked before!"

Go buy a few tickets on Delta and tell me what you think of their product compared to ours. We don't have to like them but they are the competition and we're losing the battle for high revenue customers. Instead we're targeting every Joe Sixpack in Abilene or Greensboro or Scranton who might fly somewhere once or twice a year while the high dollar corporate customers and business owners are avoiding us like the plague. Doesn't matter how much you expand your international service if nobody who means a damn to the bottom line wants it. Look what's happened in ORD post merger. United and even Delta with their international codeshares have handed our lunch to us. Until they fix the product AA will always be the #3 airline. But that takes money and treating people well especially the FAs and agents. The culture is rotten and it's going to take a lot to fix
Wow. Never seen a product this good 🙄. I can’t imagine your version of a bad product is. While I fly lots on AA due to convenience and geography, the product is very subpar, FA and gate agents nasty for the most part, first class barely at the economy level of Delta, flights very often late, premium product basically non existent, etc.
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321T is not being retired, it’s getting the XLR cabin as you said. I already love the T cabin but the new will be even better
pretty sure theyre just becoming standard Oasis birds.
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