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Old 06-22-2024, 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer
Having flown both, you couldn’t be more wrong. No IFE, rude FAs, cramped and poor quality Econ seats made for a very long ride.

Never had these issues on any Delta flight
There is literally no difference in seat pitch/width in economy between the big 3 domestic carriers when comparing the same fleet. It’s all the same. Jetblue actually beats all three of them.

Also what is the obsession with IFE? Are you really sitting back there plugging headphones into the back of seat like it’s 2005? Everyone has ipads or laptops they can watch downloaded movies on and use bluetooth headphones.
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Old 06-22-2024, 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by ClncClarence
There is literally no difference in seat pitch/width in economy between the big 3 domestic carriers when comparing the same fleet. It’s all the same. Jetblue actually beats all three of them.

Also what is the obsession with IFE? Are you really sitting back there plugging headphones into the back of seat like it’s 2005? Everyone has ipads or laptops they can watch downloaded movies on and use bluetooth headphones.
AA seats 172 in their 737-800. The most out of any other dual class 737-800 with United or Delta. It’s absolutely atrocious to ride in the back.
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Old 06-22-2024, 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by ClncClarence
There is literally no difference in seat pitch/width in economy between the big 3 domestic carriers when comparing the same fleet. It’s all the same. Jetblue actually beats all three of them.

Also what is the obsession with IFE? Are you really sitting back there plugging headphones into the back of seat like it’s 2005? Everyone has ipads or laptops they can watch downloaded movies on and use bluetooth headphones.
When I’m commuting, I see most people are conected into the IFE at Delta. We are also testing IFEs with Bluetooth capabilities.
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Old 06-22-2024, 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by ClncClarence
Also what is the obsession with IFE? Are you really sitting back there plugging headphones into the back of seat like it’s 2005? Everyone has ipads or laptops they can watch downloaded movies on and use bluetooth headphones.
It's optics. The lack of IFE makes the product feel cheaper. It's probably been 10 years since i've watched TV in a hotel room. But if I get a hotel room without a TV or with a tiny old flat screen it makes the room feel cheap. It's one of the many reasons Delta is considered a premium product compared to AA. I bet in 3 years AA will be trying to convince the traveling public that flying to Europe in a 321XLR is comprable to a DAL 330. Continually choosing the cheapest option has consequences for your brand perception. I think it's ingrained in the mgt culture. Remember Doug Parker was the first to try and charge economy pax for water back in the day.
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Old 06-22-2024, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by AAL24
It's optics. The lack of IFE makes the product feel cheaper. It's probably been 10 years since i've watched TV in a hotel room. But if I get a hotel room without a TV or with a tiny old flat screen it makes the room feel cheap. It's one of the many reasons Delta is considered a premium product compared to AA. I bet in 3 years AA will be trying to convince the traveling public that flying to Europe in a 321XLR is comprable to a DAL 330. Continually choosing the cheapest option has consequences for your brand perception. I think it's ingrained in the mgt culture. Remember Doug Parker was the first to try and charge economy pax for water back in the day.
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Old 06-22-2024, 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ClncClarence
Also what is the obsession with IFE? Are you really sitting back there plugging headphones into the back of seat like it’s 2005? Everyone has ipads or laptops they can watch downloaded movies on and use bluetooth headphones.
Agreed, I have a corporate background and or airplane had a very expensive in flight entertainment system that got used exactly once in ten years when the boss brought his grandkids.
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Old 06-22-2024, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by DogPit
Agreed, I have a corporate background and or airplane had a very expensive in flight entertainment system that got used exactly once in ten years when the boss brought his grandkids.
You mean, just like parents like the option to plug their kids into the IFE when flying on family vacations, etc?

But I love the "2005" narrative. Sour grapes, anyone?
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Old 06-22-2024, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by StoneQOLdCrazy
You mean, just like parents like the option to plug their kids into the IFE when flying on family vacations, etc?

But I love the "2005" narrative. Sour grapes, anyone?
I don't think it has much of a practical use for most. I'd certainly rather have nothing than some old system that has issues with tv screens being on MEL, etc (not saying that's the case at Delta, just saying in general). I would also rather watch on my own device than touch some old grimy screen and have to plug in some cheap headset the airline provides (because almost no one has headphones with cords and jacks anymore, that is objectively dated).

I do think there is psychological value, as mentioned earlier, in terms of it feeling more premium seeing all of the tv screens in the cabin. The screens United is installing with bluetooth connectiveity will be a nice addition for them.
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Old 06-22-2024, 09:07 AM
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I personally use the IFE screens. Sometimes just for the flight map. A couple months ago I caught the new Ferarri movie on jetBlue. The Big Lebowski has become one of my fav movies and I've only ever watched it on planes. Also finally wathed The Hangover, on United earlier this year.
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Old 06-22-2024, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by CRJCapitan
I don't think it has much of a practical use for most. I'd certainly rather have nothing than some old system that has issues with tv screens being on MEL, etc (not saying that's the case at Delta, just saying in general). I would also rather watch on my own device than touch some old grimy screen and have to plug in some cheap headset the airline provides (because almost no one has headphones with cords and jacks anymore, that is objectively dated).

I do think there is psychological value, as mentioned earlier, in terms of it feeling more premium seeing all of the tv screens in the cabin. The screens United is installing with bluetooth connectiveity will be a nice addition for them.
they have Bluetooth plug ins, makes it easy to use your own noise cancelling devices. And stuff you don’t have to pay a streaming service to watch. Just sayin.
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