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Old 06-16-2024, 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke
Just a few days ago at DFW I stood in uniform, ID visible, in front of the gate agent, who asked if I was operating the flight. I said no, I'm deadheading. She told me "you're not a deadheader. You're a normal passenger," and that was the end of the discussion. What part of dressed up like a pilot, with ID, she didn't get, wasn't clear. I wasn't impressed.
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Old 06-16-2024, 07:50 AM
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You're right, A14 is the only thing that matters. If D0 was in any way a real and important metric, A14 should not be exceeding it by that amount. Yet, D0 is what management is obsessed with.
It's kinda simple - planes that leave on time are more likely to meet D+14. Kinda hard to make D+14 if you leave 30 minutes late.

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Old 06-16-2024, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke
Just a few days ago at DFW I stood in uniform, ID visible, in front of the gate agent, who asked if I was operating the flight. I said no, I'm deadheading. She told me "you're not a deadheader. You're a normal passenger," and that was the end of the discussion. What part of dressed up like a pilot, with ID, she didn't get, wasn't clear. I wasn't impressed.
What she probably meant is that company deadheaders are allowed to board early per the contract, not OAL DHers (I assume you do not work for AA), and was thinking that you were trying to board before your group. However, knowing our hAAte Agents it probably wasn't stated that way.
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Old 06-16-2024, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke
Just a few days ago at DFW I stood in uniform, ID visible, in front of the gate agent, who asked if I was operating the flight. I said no, I'm deadheading. She told me "you're not a deadheader. You're a normal passenger," and that was the end of the discussion. What part of dressed up like a pilot, with ID, she didn't get, wasn't clear. I wasn't impressed.
You aren’t considered a dead header if you have a paid ticket on a offline carrier. Assuming you don’t work for AA, you technically aren’t considered a dead header in the eyes of AA. It will be the same on DL, and UAL either if you don’t work for either carriers…
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Old 06-16-2024, 03:26 PM
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Do you work for AA?
Based on his posts, I think the last time he flew a real airplane was during the Reagan era.
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Old 06-16-2024, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by GhettoJet
You're right, A14 is the only thing that matters. If D0 was in any way a real and important metric, A14 should not be exceeding it by that amount. Yet, D0 is what management is obsessed with.
That's because they have data showing if you leave on time you arrive on time, most of the time.

I reckon that's probably true in most cases.

It's not like being focused with being on time is anything new here:
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Old 06-16-2024, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ImSoSuss
What she probably meant is that company deadheaders are allowed to board early per the contract, not OAL DHers (I assume you do not work for AA), and was thinking that you were trying to board before your group. However, knowing our hAAte Agents it probably wasn't stated that way.
I made no effort to board early, nor have I ever. It's not something I do.

It appeared a full flight, and I enquired about putting my baggage below, and asked if I could retrieve it in the jetway. Just trying to help out. I wasn't begging a ride. I was in uniform, deaheading, with a boarding pass in hand, no intention of seeking anything from the gate agent, but a simple enquiry about putting luggage below.

I deadhead all over the globe, and get far better service. I thanked the lady for her time, told her she'd been very helpful, and took my seat to await my turn to board. Simple.
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Old 06-16-2024, 07:23 PM
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I deadhead all over the globe, and get far better service.
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means..
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Old 06-17-2024, 03:46 AM
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You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means..
like talking to a wall…
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Old 06-17-2024, 04:02 AM
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Originally Posted by GhettoJet
You're right, A14 is the only thing that matters. If D0 was in any way a real and important metric, A14 should not be exceeding it by that amount. Yet, D0 is what management is obsessed with.
Is this a serious comment?

D0 matters because it reflects management’s skills at using policy and labor to put the bags and passengers on the plane on time.

If you miss D0 and make A14 means you got lucky with weather or ATC, the only other option is for management to reduce the productivity of their millions in assets to “pad” block times so you make A14.

D0 is king because it’s what the airline controls, they don’t control weather and ATC.

When you make D0 and therefore A14 it allows them to schedule the max utilization of their fleet. They have thousands of hours of data to predict making D0 but missing A14.

Making D0 is company control metric

Making A14 is making D0 and having accurate predictions on how outside forces increase block times and cause delays.

Making A14 a lot and missing D0 a lot means the company is intentionally scheduling an under utilization of their assets. Millions can be saved by making A14 by way of D0 and not underutilizing the fleet, they can add seat miles to the same fleet and having more inventory.

You want mgmt to reduce inventory to make A14 or focus on outside factors?

You do not want management to obsess with the focus of putting bags, fuel, and passengers on plane on time “making D0” and then having ability to increase inventory to sell?

Airline A operates 10,000 block hours and makes D0 99% and A14 99%

Airline B operates 9,000 block hours and makes D0 50% but makes A14 99%

Mgmt is obsessed with D0 because they are airline B and want to become airline A , and want to add 1,000 block hours to sell for $$.

They are tired of destroying the efficiency of their fleet to keep arrivals on time.

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