AA or Delta at this moment
07-09-2024, 07:18 AM
#451
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One man's "troll level stupidity" is another man's treasure, and it's really none of your business which side of the ledger it falls on for the individual pilot.
Are they "days off?" Of course not, but given the visibility AA pilots have through APA Reserve, OT, and DOTC it's not had to have a decent home life on SC, provided you live in base.
Are they "days off?" Of course not, but given the visibility AA pilots have through APA Reserve, OT, and DOTC it's not had to have a decent home life on SC, provided you live in base.
07-09-2024, 10:24 AM
#452
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Don't give a crap how you categorize it, a reserve day not used is not a day off. The problem comes when people purposely mischaracterize it as a day off when touting how "mY AiRlInE iS bEtTeR tHaN yOuR aIrLiNe" in these ****ing contest threads. Nearly every Major airline out there does not use their reserves every day, so that is basically a wash.[size=0pt] [/size]
07-09-2024, 11:18 AM
#453
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It absolutely blows me away there are still people spouting this nonsense. In no sense is an unused reserve day a "day off". I can't travel with family or friends, I can't make hard plans. If you really see it as a day off, why not let the company fill every day of the month with reserve? You're not working, right?
This is like troll level stupidity.
This is like troll level stupidity.
07-09-2024, 11:26 AM
#454
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yes but this is a comparison of airline jobs… not working at Dennys
07-09-2024, 01:07 PM
#456
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Don't give a crap how you categorize it, a reserve day not used is not a day off. The problem comes when people purposely mischaracterize it as a day off when touting how "mY AiRlInE iS bEtTeR tHaN yOuR aIrLiNe" in these ****ing contest threads. Nearly every Major airline out there does not use their reserves every day, so that is basically a wash.[size=0pt] [/size]
How much reserve gets used on average at various airlines is very pertinent to anyone asking the kinds of questions which started this thread. And the answers can and will change over time.
07-09-2024, 01:11 PM
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Pilots coming on here saying they have 22 days off a month or some such nonsese because they're adding days not used to DFPs should rightly be lambasted. That said, MOST of the audience on this board both knows better and should be inteligent enough to guage whether or not that kind of lifestyle fits their goals. Do what works for you.
07-09-2024, 01:53 PM
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Don’t give a flip how you categorize it, an unused 18-hour long call reserve day is not a day of work. No one is purposely mischaracterizing anything, or trying to dump on AA here. It’s just data points. Take them or leave them.
How much reserve gets used on average at various airlines is very pertinent to anyone asking the kinds of questions which started this thread. And the answers can and will change over time.
How much reserve gets used on average at various airlines is very pertinent to anyone asking the kinds of questions which started this thread. And the answers can and will change over time.
Reserve utilization heavily depends on bid status regardless of the airline. At AA it's also heavily dependent on seniority. DL reserves definitely fly more on average than AA reserves. My understanding is they also can't pick up premium (greenslips) unless they hit a certain amount of flying.
Personally, I think reserve at AA is the best of the legacies. But our system is changing in September so we'll see if that lasts.
07-09-2024, 02:16 PM
#459
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Sounds like you're either agreeing with me, or didn't at all read the post I quoted, and the one they were responding to in which they said, paraphrasing, "people consider unused reserve days off because they are".
I'll never argue that reserve can be a phenomenal QOL, but I'll never submit to the idea it's a day off. With reserve, days at home != days off.
I'll never argue that reserve can be a phenomenal QOL, but I'll never submit to the idea it's a day off. With reserve, days at home != days off.
07-09-2024, 02:57 PM
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Boys, boys, they're not "days of work" and they're not "days off" either. If a reserve day at home was the same as a day of work pilots would always just yellow slip a trip, because hey, it's the same as "work" amiright? That they don't gives away the ghost.
By the same token, a day on reserve isn't fully a day off either. Cause you can't be in Tahiti with your phone off.
It's an in between. And that's cool. No need for it to be one or the other. Sheesh.
By the same token, a day on reserve isn't fully a day off either. Cause you can't be in Tahiti with your phone off.
It's an in between. And that's cool. No need for it to be one or the other. Sheesh.
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