Originally Posted by thrust

Copy, unable to show your work. Tap out noted.

Originally Posted by Trashman3

Asking for a friend...

If you were a relatively new hire at AA right now, but also had a CJO from Delta, would you go or stay?

Commuting for the forseeable future. AA & Delta bases are equal commutes.


While I understand that a lot of the hostility over the APA/APLA merger and general *****ing on social media is from a small group of people... but man it's aggressive and paints a toxic picture at AA.

Anyway, asking for opinions from current mainline folks. Thanks

Originally Posted by airbusflieger

Please see edited post, which included the DL contract January '23 in full.

Just because someone won't spoon feed you doens't mean the information isn't accurate.

Don't be lazy.

Here's the Delta contract again, in case you missed it:

https://d2r1lrrqctgamh.cloudfront.ne...TA%20Clean.pdf

Originally Posted by thrust

I'm not being lazy, and I'm not the one who claimed "millions".

I'm well educated on Delta's contract, and there are several things in it that are very lucrative. Nobody said otherwise.

But I challenged you to specifically show your work in regards to your "millions" claim. You won't do so, because you can't do so, and I called you on it. Not my job to do your BS hysterical homework.

Again, tap out noted.

Originally Posted by airbusflieger

Got it, and thank you. I don't post to be snarky.

As for the math, you'll have to do that yourself.

Luckily, it's easy.

You won't belive anything a stranger would post anyway, or at least you should not.


You will have to look beyond the simple hourly rate x months/years on property to calculate. You will have to take the time to read the language carefully. For instance the language DL has allow double dipping, APA does not allow double dipping unless you are in the APA PU club), has an honest to goodness profit sharing plan for pilots only, and there are many more work rules, coloqially called "quality of life" rules, which really means "choice to earn more or have more time off" rules.

These work rules have a huge impact on the W2.

The contract comparissions made by the APA are cherry picked, below is the DL contract in full. See for yourself.

Delta Contract:
https://d2r1lrrqctgamh.cloudfront.ne...TA%20Clean.pdf

Originally Posted by ImSoSuss

Negative, commuting trumps almost all. You haven't even been here a year yet, what are you giving advice for newb?

Originally Posted by ImSoSuss

Better contract, better pay, better union, much higher profit sharing, and what I would say is a much more stable company trumps the slight advantage he would have in seniority at AA. Definitely go to Delta.


To the OP, be careful taking advice from many of these people who haven’t even been here a year and are still in the bight eyed newb stage of their journey. It’s cute to see and all but they haven't seen the meat of the operation yet and can give you some bad information. Your “””””””””friend””””””””” should go to Delta and never look back with all things being equal. Just look at the rest of the threads here compared to the threads over at the Delta forums to see which airline has the bigger issues in their contract. Your “””””””friend”””””””” has been warned.

Originally Posted by Red Forman

Actually I have but please go on.

Originally Posted by thrust

Copy, unable to show your work. Tap out noted.

Originally Posted by Red Forman

Yes, instead take the advice from this genius that’s been here slightly over a year.