AA or Delta at this moment
01-09-2024, 04:25 AM
#161
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Joined APC: Jan 2019
Posts: 31
You're going to have to refresh my memory. How many did United and AA furlough? I was under the impression AA was more. And if we also tally up Continental and USAir...ooof.
01-09-2024, 07:42 AM
#162
Sweet Chin Music
Joined APC: Mar 2023
Position: AB FO
Posts: 253
I think it's an ego thing. Some people's feelings are hurt when you insinuate they work for an 3rd rate company with an 3rd rate contract. They either don't know better or is in denial.
While true there's whining everywhere among the big 3. Domiciles aside, you'll just about never hear UAL/DAL pilots tell their own that if they don't have much time in, they ought to go to AA because they'll have better QOL or make more money, whereas at AA it's quite the opposite.
AA has more retirements in the next 10 years sure, but in my opinion that positive is entirely negated by the 3rd rate contract and the state of the company. Case and point, we have the most retirements, yet when crap hits the fan, we're the only one to furlough.
Anyways
While true there's whining everywhere among the big 3. Domiciles aside, you'll just about never hear UAL/DAL pilots tell their own that if they don't have much time in, they ought to go to AA because they'll have better QOL or make more money, whereas at AA it's quite the opposite.
AA has more retirements in the next 10 years sure, but in my opinion that positive is entirely negated by the 3rd rate contract and the state of the company. Case and point, we have the most retirements, yet when crap hits the fan, we're the only one to furlough.
Anyways
There’s plenty of highly talented big tech software engineers who’ve recently been laid off. APA should put our union dues to good use, contract talented software engineers to develop a trip trading program that would benefit both the company and pilots.
aNyWaYs…
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01-09-2024, 05:33 PM
#163
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2019
Posts: 179
01-11-2024, 07:28 PM
#164
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Joined APC: Nov 2023
Posts: 147
I have less than 10, more than 5.
I am staying. Sitting on 35% seniority in the narrowbody left seat. Life is damn good. Of course it took 24 years to get to this point....
There is no set amount of time left to jump ship IMO.
However, if someone had 20 or moere to go and had a CJO at UA or DL, I'd advise them to take it.
Then again, I also think that Isom will not last as long as Parker. If things keep going the way they've been since he took over, IMO Isom will be a short lived CEO at AA. This could be good or bad.
Example; Poor US Airways went from bad to worse when Wolf came around. In contrast Bethune turned Continental around.
Which will the next AA CEO be like? Who knows.
I am staying. Sitting on 35% seniority in the narrowbody left seat. Life is damn good. Of course it took 24 years to get to this point....
There is no set amount of time left to jump ship IMO.
However, if someone had 20 or moere to go and had a CJO at UA or DL, I'd advise them to take it.
Then again, I also think that Isom will not last as long as Parker. If things keep going the way they've been since he took over, IMO Isom will be a short lived CEO at AA. This could be good or bad.
Example; Poor US Airways went from bad to worse when Wolf came around. In contrast Bethune turned Continental around.
Which will the next AA CEO be like? Who knows.
01-11-2024, 10:02 PM
#165
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2012
Posts: 373
I have less than 10, more than 5.
I am staying. Sitting on 35% seniority in the narrowbody left seat. Life is damn good. Of course it took 24 years to get to this point....
There is no set amount of time left to jump ship IMO.
However, if someone had 20 or moere to go and had a CJO at UA or DL, I'd advise them to take it.
Then again, I also think that Isom will not last as long as Parker. If things keep going the way they've been since he took over, IMO Isom will be a short lived CEO at AA. This could be good or bad.
Example; Poor US Airways went from bad to worse when Wolf came around. In contrast Bethune turned Continental around.
Which will the next AA CEO be like? Who knows.
I am staying. Sitting on 35% seniority in the narrowbody left seat. Life is damn good. Of course it took 24 years to get to this point....
There is no set amount of time left to jump ship IMO.
However, if someone had 20 or moere to go and had a CJO at UA or DL, I'd advise them to take it.
Then again, I also think that Isom will not last as long as Parker. If things keep going the way they've been since he took over, IMO Isom will be a short lived CEO at AA. This could be good or bad.
Example; Poor US Airways went from bad to worse when Wolf came around. In contrast Bethune turned Continental around.
Which will the next AA CEO be like? Who knows.
01-12-2024, 02:04 AM
#166
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Joined APC: Dec 2019
Posts: 1,950
the only one where its possible is LGA 737 INT, but only if 10 years here. So yeah… baloney
01-12-2024, 02:11 AM
#167
Speed Verified
Joined APC: Sep 2017
Posts: 1,124
He's at 35% with less than 10 yrs to retire. He's been here 24 yrs, as he stated.
01-12-2024, 02:16 AM
#168
You scratched my anchor
Joined APC: Feb 2011
Posts: 4,948
10 year CA LGA 737I would put you about 40%
01-12-2024, 04:43 AM
#169
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Joined APC: Nov 2023
Posts: 147
01-12-2024, 07:12 AM
#170
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Joined APC: Oct 2014
Posts: 40
I think DL is the better place to work looking at the total picture. I wouldnt make life long decisions on bases, it easy enough to move and find somewhere you can call home rather than commute for a career. AA isnt bad, at all, and given that the poster is already at AA I would give a tie breaker to status quo over leaving if they were truly 50/50 on the decision. DL has a much stronger balance sheet and the risk of bankruptcy isnt hanging over their heads as it is at AA. AA is commited to domestic flying wheras Delta is more of a global carrier where one could spend a large portion of their career flying a widebody. Stronger management team at DL. No risk of something wonky with the regional wholly owned hanging over the heads of DL. No weird organizational structure (like AAG) where AA is on the same level as regional pilots in the company for things like non-reving. Solid profit sharing at DL.
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