VicksCool

This is a Fact, It was allowed before but NOT now. The AA and TWA merger was the last one, (Ask the TWA guys how they made out: NOT GOOD )

Now can only happen if both parties agreed, and WHO would agree to be stapled at the bottom !

So another words WILL NOT HAPPEN.

airbusflieger

Absolutely not.

Two sides try to work it out, if that fails, mediation, if that fails, arbitration.

ALPA on ALPA or ALPA on non-ALPA

overqualified52

You'll be busted down to flying rubber dog **** out of Hong Kong 😂🙈

overqualified52

Oh it will happen and it will be decided by the courts , so someone will get screwed .. Regarding the past , many pilot groups got shafted . Usair, Western , Hughes Air West, Capitol, Ozark , ASA, and Pan Am pilots are just some of many that got stiffed .

overqualified52

Vote in the Teamsters .

ImSoSuss

Were any of those Airlines regionals going to their parent company?

FXLAX

Yes, if both (all) pilot groups are represented by ALPA, then by law ALPA merger policy is used. But the ALPA merger policy does NOT prohibit staples.

This is not correct. Unless I missed what law you are referring to.

It is possible if the arbitrator decides a staple is the most fair and equitable.

Out of curiosity, I am familiar with ASA. How did they get screwed?

AllYourBaseAreB

ALPA merger policy is basically McCaskill Bond with the additional requirement of having 3 arbitrators vs just 1. A staple with fences is absolutely a possibility if deemed fair by the panel

LAXtoDEN

Oh look the two regional pilots (Envoy, Endeavor) are giving their wishful delusional opinions on the matter.

Big difference with Delta or American bringing their WO pilots to mainline is they’re not acquiring anything. This isn’t a merger of two separate mainline carriers buying another out. It will be a staple to the bottom with fences. Anything other than that would create massive anarchy within the pilot ranks at either mainline carrier. Management would never take that risk. They don’t need to, it’s not that bad and never will be. Regional connections are a very small percentage of both Delta and American’s total revenue. And with how much regional pilots are compensated, I doubt they bring much of a net profit anymore.

You can just hire another 2,500 pilots this year and cover what would have been stapled to the bottom anyways. The reason why we’ll probably never see 70 seat regional jets at mainline again is because you’ll have rogue regional pilots like overqualified52 filing lawsuits to steal seniority during what should be an easy staple process.

If American planned on bringing their regional pilots to mainline, why did they just buy 19 brand new scope compliant E175 E1’s? Why wouldn’t they buy the E2’s? Also apparently those 900’s operated from Mesa flying American eagle were suppose to eventually end up in American’s hands for cheap but that plan backfired so this new order should cover the loss in contractual flying they had from Mesa.

VicksCool

Please explain to me how Pan Am Pilots got screwed? See how well you know the past.