AA defers 787s to order more E175s

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01-03-2024, 10:28 AM

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[QUOTE=GrossNavError;3745295]AA is a domestic LCC with a london operation and a few seasonal international flights.

People who make these comments and comparisons clearly never worked for an LCC before.

01-03-2024, 11:09 AM

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Well. So much for the regionals are going away, all lift to mainline, argument. Sounds to me like they’re here to stay.

01-03-2024, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by APCHCLIMB

Well. So much for the regionals are going away, all lift to mainline, argument. Sounds to me like they’re here to stay.

Group 1 aircraft are certainly here to stay. They perform important functions for network carriers.

01-04-2024, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by GrossNavError

AA is a domestic LCC with a london operation and a few seasonal international flights.

LHR eats up maybe 45-50 w/b's. Another 70-80 to do other flying. What other domestic LCC is running 70-80 777's and 787's?

01-04-2024, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Otterbox

Close to 50% of AAs flight revenue generation comes from its regional lift.

Is regional revenue broken out on the annual report? I see a line item for total 2022 regional operating expenses, which includes all the regional partners and not just WO carriers, of $4.3B out of the total AA operating expenses of $47.1B on total passenger revenues of $44.5B (and $49B of total operating revenue).

I don't know how one would infer that regionals are contributing "close to 50%" of that $44.B passenger revneue number, let alone the total company operating revenue of $49B. But that's just after a basic review of the 10K. I'm not an accountant. I only play one on TV.....

https://www.annualreports.com/Compan...airlines-group

01-04-2024, 07:25 AM

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Otterbox has zero clue about anything not United but loves to pretend. I’m sure United posted some BS power point slides in their charm school to keep the AA WO new hires at United. An unbelievable amount of kool-aid drinkers at UA compared to DL and AA.

01-04-2024, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by LAXtoDEN

Otterbox has zero clue about anything not United but loves to pretend.

Pot, meet kettle.

01-04-2024, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Sliceback

LHR eats up maybe 45-50 w/b's. Another 70-80 to do other flying. What other domestic LCC is running 70-80 777's and 787's?

American has 45-50 daily LHR flights? Doubtful. I don’t think any of them are long enough to require 2 aircraft.

01-04-2024, 09:44 AM

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American has 45-50 daily LHR flights? Doubtful. I don’t think any of them are long enough to require 2 aircraft.

Actually 45 lhr flights sounds about right.
I mean jfk is close 10 on its own.

01-04-2024, 09:55 AM

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American has 45-50 daily LHR flights? Doubtful. I don’t think any of them are long enough to require 2 aircraft.

Not even close to 40-50. Right now in off season only 2-3x from JFK. 1xPHL, 1xMIA, 4xDFW, 2xORD, 3xLAX, 3xCLT, 1xRDU, 1xBOS. A few more frequencies in Summer. The joint venture with BA helps all that too.
I think LAX and DFW may require some additional aircraft though not necessarily 4. LAX-LHR block time is 10.5 hrs over and 11.5 hours back.