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Old 11-27-2023, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by FLYMIA
🤣 haha, ah man.. yea, can do without the cannons. On a side note, is there any way to see the progress of the ALPA card drive? I've talked with numerous captains about it who had no idea a drive was even taking place. Whoever started the drive is really not doing a good job of getting the word out.
Get a lanyard and wear it. Talk about it with your co workers. I am. Seems like most of my FOs are up to speed. Captains were hit or miss before I upgraded
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Old 11-27-2023, 04:25 PM
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A bit? The place is unhinged.

Haven't people faced disciplinary actions because of the line?
Yes. I'm forgetting if people were fired for what they posted. Definitely got unpaid time off. But it's a union hall, it's a 1st Amendment issue (uh...the government is involved in the discussion or the discipline...).
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Old 11-27-2023, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Sliceback
Yes. I'm forgetting if people were fired for what they posted. Definitely got unpaid time off. But it's a union hall, it's a 1st Amendment issue (uh...the government is involved in the discussion or the discipline...).
No, it’s not a first amendment issue. Guys have been fired because of posts on the line, it’s literally in the warning you click to enter the line.

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Old 11-27-2023, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Sliceback
Yes. I'm forgetting if people were fired for what they posted. Definitely got unpaid time off. But it's a union hall, it's a 1st Amendment issue (uh...the government is involved in the discussion or the discipline...).
the union hall argument for why the line had to be completely uncensored/unmoderated is complete nonsense.
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Old 11-27-2023, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Sliceback
Yes. I'm forgetting if people were fired for what they posted. Definitely got unpaid time off. But it's a union hall, it's a 1st Amendment issue (uh...the government is involved in the discussion or the discipline...).
the government didn't fire him, a private company did

In no way was that a 1st amendment issue
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Old 11-28-2023, 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Sliceback
Yes. I'm forgetting if people were fired for what they posted. Definitely got unpaid time off. But it's a union hall, it's a 1st Amendment issue (uh...the government is involved in the discussion or the discipline...).
During the last section 6 a scheduling SME put some good stuff out countering some of the BS that was on The AArena. I asked if he could put it there. He said that he would not post on The AArena, it was a good place to get yourself fired.
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Old 11-28-2023, 06:12 AM
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My "but it's a union hall, it's a 1st Amendment issue, was dripping with sarcasm about the wailing wall participants who spout that dearth of logic.
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Old 11-28-2023, 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by R57 relay
During the last section 6 a scheduling SME put some good stuff out countering some of the BS that was on The AArena. I asked if he could put it there. He said that he would not post on The AArena, it was a good place to get yourself fired.
The SME's not going to get fired for doing basic stuff. The pilots that knew the people that got fired, or unpaid time off, weren't shocked at most of the rulings. But as a former negotiator said, even today, "there's not enough time in the day to contradict the B.S. that's out there. That included C&R/The Line.
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Old 12-14-2023, 05:51 PM
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Old 12-14-2023, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Sliceback
The SME's not going to get fired for doing basic stuff. The pilots that knew the people that got fired, or unpaid time off, weren't shocked at most of the rulings. But as a former negotiator said, even today, "there's not enough time in the day to contradict the B.S. that's out there. That included C&R/The Line.
how bad were the postings? Are we talking racial/discrimination stuff ?
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