ClncClarence

Normal APA dues are 1% and we are currently also in the middle of a 4 month ‘dues holiday’ where we pay nothing.

MasTamales

Just my 2 cents, but I don't think cost should be the driving factor when shopping for representation. Any dues increase could be easily countered at the next contract. I also think changing representation could be really good or really crappy depending on how the merger/implementation is handled.

Werjower

The line between lakefront property and a yacht, or being on the street in financial ruin is really thin looking at the percentage difference.

FangsF15

Thanks. Is the 1.3% what it goes to during section 6? Maybe that’s what I’m remembering?

Glad to know you are in a dues holiday. Thanks again.

m78fl370

Good deal. ALPA can suck it.

ACEssXfer

The 1.3 was a number produced by the card drive guys. It was the average dues paid over the last XX years. Normally 1% but S6 adds .5.

FXLAX

Just to add some context on ALPA crapping the bed at Fedex, yes, that is true. But it was specifically FDX ALPA, not ALPA national. It was the MEC that failed by relying on a years old polling to gauge what the pilot group wanted. The FedEx pilot group demographic is changing at a rapid pace. When the MEC was formulating their negotiating plan in early 2021, the pilot group wanted a focused negotiation concentrating on retirment benefits. By the time the TA was published, management had already begun a transformation of the company which pointed towards outsourcing. We are in the beggining of the equivalent of the legacy's regional outsourcing battle. Not to mention a new CEO whose last name is not Smith and new renegade baord members that are hellbent on continauly and simultaneously increasing dividends and stock buy backs while contemplating selling of the most profitable part of the company, the freight division. I know you have all been through these situations but its all new at fedex. Honeymoon is finally over and the previous MEC didn't want to admit it.

The ta actually loosened scope language, other sections lagged, and the focused parts were concenssionary in order to get the gains in retirment, which fell below expectations anyway. Thankfully it failed. ALPA national had nothing to do with any of that. ALPA national does not dictate to any pilot group what negotiating priorities, or polling requirements, or timelines, etc. They are hands off when it comes to what each MEC does in negotaitions.

Out of the 14 reps and 3 officers on the MEC 11 were replaced (8 were recalled) and 3 were up for re-election but decided not to run for re-election. The negotating committee was completely replaced as well. Since then, ALPA national has redirected all their resources to the Fedex pilot group. They have been paying for all expenses to train everyone above and beyond the regular rep training that all new reps get at any ALPA airline, they have been pouring polling resources, and hired an outside scope attorney specifically for scope negotiations. They've pretty much have opened up the war chest for us.

Anyway, just wanted to explain who actually crapped the bed and how its starting to turn around. With the help of ALPA national and pilot group resolve, I don't see why we cant have a better TA just as DALPA and UALPA had after their failed TAs.

Good luck with whatever you end up choosing, if you get a choice to pick. I hope you can join ALPA and infuse it with some new blood. You are a large pilt group and am sure you have many talented ones that can help the entire profession if we joined together.

tallpilot

Thank you for the report. I hope it works out over there. Freight should be a career option similar to legacies.

The ALPA war chest is nice for smaller pilot groups but money doesn't solve all problems. Look at ATI, no amount of money can overcome intransigent management.

It is critical that national doesn't dictate to pilot groups. A crappy MEC is still crappy regardless if independent, ALPA or Teamsters. National helps only if the MEC asks.

Swakid8

I’ll also add that the ALPA by-laws in place allows for a process for representation to be recalled and replaced… When our TA failed at UAL, we went to the process of recalling and replacing our MEC. Delta did the same a few years prior….

Whats that process look like for APA to recall and replace leadership?

ImSoSuss

Nonexistent. Nobody has ever been recalled at APA and that's not because they were doing such a great job. Once in power they are entrenched until they want to leave.